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`saakaSvili da misi xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebis muqa-
rebs bolo ar uCans. xmamaRla bedaven imis Tqmas, rom me qarTu-
li saxelmwifos mteri var da ruseTis samsaxurSi vdgavar.
es utifari tyuilia, romelic erTaderT mizans emsaxureba:
xalxs Cemi ndoba daakargvinos da qveynis mtrad gamomacxdon.
aqamde mecineboda maT tyuilebze, magram axla ukve Cvens
mravalricxovan mxardamWerebsac moRalateobas abraleben da
amiT saSinel Seuracxyofas ayeneben.
naTlad vxedav saakaSvilis borot ganzraxvas - Tavisi Zala-
uflebis SesanarCuneblad mzad aris, adamianebi samkvdro-sa-
sicocxlod gadahkidos erTmaneTs.~
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biZina ivaniSvili:
rogor SeiZleba Tamaz
TamazaSvils kriminalebTan
kavSiri daabralon, roca misi
likvidaciisTvis `mxedrions~
da kriminalur samyaros fuladi
jildo hqondaT dawesebuli
SurisZieba nacionalurad
kaxelebo, Tqven xomar gamoSluvdiT, Sah abass kaxeTSiTqveni xeliT rom
udgamT taxts?
xelisufleba iqamde
mivida, rom
gardabanSi soflis
mRvdlebsac ki daeria
giorgi naWyebia:
gagecinebaT, magramdRes iseT situaciaSi
var, rogorc Tavisdroze utu miqava iyo...
guguli maRraZe:saakaSvilma Tqva _
amaT surT arCevnebSi
`SemiTriono~...
`SeviTrevT~ da
movugebT kidec!
koba kapanaZe:
kargad daimaxsovrossaakaSvilis garemocvam: roca faraons marxaven,
msaxurebsac Tan Caayoleben xolme...
jemal davlianiZe:
samegrelos
Tavisufleba
eocnebeba
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_ qudze kaci! mteri
mogvdgomia kars! _ ase mi-
marTavdnen Znelbedobis Ja-
ms qarTveli mefeebi qarT-
velebs.
_ qudze kaci! mteri
mogvdgomia saarCevno ubneb-
Tan! _ ase mimarTavs mixeil
saakaSvili saqarTvelos
mosaxleobas da ZalTa mo-
bilizebisken da sruli sab-
rZolo mzadyofnisken mou-
wodebs.
_ ise magrad unda dava-
marcxoT es mteri, ise mag-
rad, rom es iyos misi uka-
naskneli gafarTxaleba! _
xmaliviT iqnevs marjvenas
prezidenti saakaSvili.
ara, ar aris es prezi-
denti, es kaci mefea, oRond
ugvirgvino mefe.
amboben, meufe kalist-
rate saRoriis tyeSi gan-
Tavsebul saidumlo samWed-
loSi mefe mixeilisTvis
gvirgvins aWedinebs mWed-
lebso.
gvirgvini 1 oqtombris-
Tvis iqneba mzad da quTa-
isSi, parlamentis pirvel
sxdomaze, meufe kalist-
rate sakuTari xeliT da-
adgams Tavze mefe mixeils.
Tumca manamde mTeli er-
Ti Tvea da jer mteria da-
samarcxebeli.
_ qudze kaci! mteri
mogvdgomia saarCevno ub-
nebTan! gadavdivarT Tav-
dacvaze! _ gvrgvinavs mefe
mixeili _ wamoyareT
mkvdrebi saflavebidan da
TxoveT, kidev erTxel
dagvexmaron. marTalia,
xSirad ki vawuxebT, mag-
ram am erTxelac dagvexma-
ron da mere me vici maTi
pativiscema. kacitaZes
uTxariT, rac SeiZleba me-
ti miwerebi, rac SeiZleba
meti ararsebuli pirebi
ararsebul misamarTebze.
daazusteT sazRvargareT
wasulebis sia _ ukleb-
liv yvela emigrants xu-
Tiani `SemoaxazineT~. ne-
bivroben, genacvale, eseni
sazRvargareT, Cven kidev
aq mters vebrZviT. keTili
inebon d aRasrulon am
emigrantebma TavianTi ma-
maSviluri vali. qudze ka-
ci, anu rac SeiZleba meti
yalbi biuleteni saarCev-
no yuTebSi! datrialdiT
axla! _ cecxls yris pi-
ridan mefe da magidaze mi-
mofantul qaRaldebs ia-
takze yris.
meti damajereblobisT-
vis, rom namdvilad mefea,
mefe mixeili dangreul
Zvel cixeebs mecixovne va-
nos xelaxla aSenebinebs da
garedan JangisferiT feravs
_ viTom namdvilad Zveli,
ZvelisZveli cixea da mec
namdvili mefe var _ safe-
odleboebica maqvs, feoda-
lebic myavs, monebic myavs,
haramxanac myavs, kalistra-
te myavs _ mefe var, aba, vin
varo?
mokled rom movWraT,
mefe mixeili feodaluri
xanis mefea da misi cxovre-
bac erTi gabmuli lxini da
nadimi iyo, es Worvileli
feodali rom ar ajanyebo-
da.
ras izam, mZimea qudi mo-
nomaxisa, to est, mefisa.
_ qudze kaci! saarCevno
ubnebs mteri Semoesia! qud-
ze kaci! iSiSvleT yalbi
biuletenebi da daicaviT
mefe mixeil!
_ Tqvens saarCevno kampa-
niaSi cota leninizmi ure-
viao, _ brZana batonma rikar-
dom, euTos asambleis prezi-
dentma.
_ ase da ase iTqva Cvens
saarCevno kampaniaze da Tqven
ra azris brZandebiTo, _
hkiTxa Jurnalistma nika ru-
ruas, kulturis, fizkultu-
ris da kidev sxva kulture-
bis ministrs.
_ ra azris var da sisu-
leleao, _ upasuxa b-n nikam.
_ euTos asambleis prezi-
dentma Tqvao, _ Seapara Jur-
nalistma ministr nikas.
_ ra mniSvneloba aqvs vin
Tqva, sisulele sisulelea,
_ ixtibari ar gaitexa minis-
trma nikam.
bevri rom ar SegawuxoT,
ministri nikas komentaridan
erTaderTi daskvna SegviZlia
gamovitanoT: batoni rikardo
sulelia da sisuleleebs am-
bobs.
arada, es batono rikar-
do, rogorc giTxariT,
euTos asambleis preziden-
tia.
gamodis, rom es euTos
mravalricxovani asambleac
sulelebiT aris gatenili.
aba, Wkvianebi rom iyvnen
sulels prezidentad airCev-
dnen?
ministri nikas komentarma
parlamentari kakos (boboxi-
Zis) komentari gamaxsena,
aSS-s administracias rom
daucacxana _ Tqven xom ar
dagaviwydaT, suverenuli sa-
xelmwifo rom varT, ra ins-
truqciebs da direqtivebs
gvaZlevT, Cven ar viciT ar-
Cevnebi rogor unda Cavata-
roTo?!
bodiSs vixdiT, rom zus-
tad citirebas ver vaxdenT,
Tumca Sinaarsi absolutu-
rad zustia.
ministri nika da parlamen-
tari kako _ ai, ori burji sa-
qarTvelos damoukideblobisa.
es ori burji da erTic
dedaboZi _ Ciora.
dedaboZma Cioram brZana,
batonma rikardom leninizmi
CvenTan, nacionalebTan, da-
kavSirebiT ki ara opozicias-
Tan dakavSirebiT Tqvao...
qalbatono Ciora, Zvirfa-
so dedaboZo, utifroba ki
gamigia, magram aseTi utif-
roba ar msmenia. kidev er-
Txel gavixsenoT, ra Tqva ba-
tonma rikardom.
_ Tqvens saarCevno kampa-
niaSi cota leninizmia... am
qveyanaSi ar arian mtrebi, aq
arian gansxvavebuli azris
adamianebio.
mterze da mtrebze vin
laparakobs dRedaRame, qalba-
tono Ciora, Tqveni beladi
xom ara, romelmac lamisaa
arCevnebi saomar bataliebs ga-
uTanabros, sadac mteri unda
daamarcxo da gaanadguro,
Tumca Tqvengan aravin ufiqr-
deba imas, rom arCevnebSi mxo-
lod da mxolod saqarTvelos
mosaxleoba monawileobs.
e.i. ra gamodis, saqarTve-
los mosaxleobis is nawilia
mteri, romelic `nacmoZrao-
bisTvis~ xmis micemas ar api-
rebs da es mteri unda daa-
marcxoT, anu sakuTari mo-
saxleobisTvis apirebT omis
gamocxadebas?
ufro meti ki araferi
uTqvams amxanag lenins _
klasobrivi mteri unda gava-
nadguroTo, Tqva.
leninia Tqveni beladi sa-
akaSvili, qalbatono Ciora,
simaRleSi dagrZelebuli
lenini, romelic demokrati-
is niRbiT qarTul bolSe-
vizms aSenebs.
qarTuli bolSevizmi _
Tavisi kompartiiT, komkavSi-
riT da pioneriiT ukve saxe-
zea da swored es dainaxa ba-
tonma rikardom.
zrdili kacia batoni ri-
kardo da amitom Tqva, co-
tao, Torem man mSvenivrad
icis, rom mTeli es sistema,
rac nacmoZraobam am rva
wlis ganmavlobaSi moaxla-
forTa, Tavidan bolomde le-
ninuria, romelsac cota
stalinuri da cotac gorba-
Coviseuli aqvs Sereul-Seu-
nelebeli.
_ viRac-viRacebs surT
ukan, warsulSi, ukan, sabWo-
Ta kavSirSi dagvabrunono _
Weqda da quxda amaswinaT am-
xanagi miSa.
sabWoTa kavSirs gansa-
kuTrebiT mis bolo aTweuls
kidev ra uSavs, sabWoTa kav-
SirSi ki ara, kidev ufro
ukan gasuli saukunis 20-30-
ian wlebSi abrunebs saqarT-
velos `nacmoZraoba~ da Tu
vinme amaze xmis amoRebas ga-
bedavs, sulels eZaxis.
esec bolSevikebis sti-
lia, maTi leqsikaa.
saakaSvilma Txara, Txara
da leninizmi gamoTxara.
asvenia axla es daumarxa-
vi lenini `nacmoZraobis~ ka-
rebTan da xan Ciora dahqvi-
Tinebs da xan _ xaTuna...
ar arian `nacelebi~ leni-
nizmis dammarxavni, is qarTvel-
ma xalxma unda miabaros miwas
da erTxel da samudamod iq ga-
istumros, saidanac movida...
qudze kaci! saarCevno ubnebs mteri Semoesia! iSiSvleT yalbi biuletenebi
da daicaviT mefe mixeili!
miSam Txara, Txara, Txarada lenini gamoTxara...
3#37 (221), 29.VIII-4.IX, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi
Cemo sayvareloxalxo, mogesalmebiT!mogesalmebi Cemo raWav, leCxumo, qvemo svaneTo!mogesalmebi, saqarTvelov!vaxuSti batoniSvili ai, ase
aRwerda raWas: „Sinagan ars raWa,
friad magari mTiTa, kldiTa, xra-
miTa, xeviTa da tyiTa, Seuali ga-
re mtrisagan“.
usmineT, ra sityvebia: „zafxu-
l grili, zamTar Tbili da uqa-
ro, mosavliani, nayofierebs yo-
velni marcvalni, venaxni, xilni“.
ai, ra uboZa ufalma raWas!
raWa, leCxumi, qvemo svaneTi
saqarTvelos kuTxeebia, magram
guli da Suagulia yvelgan, sadac
saqarTveloa.
Turme, xalxo, SeuZlebelia
idge am qveynis miwaze da ar iyo
amave dros mis gulSi. ai, aseTi
qveyanaa Cveni saqarTvelo.
kavkasionis cicabo ferdobeb-
ze cxovrebas saocari simtkice
sWirdeba da arc sakuTari Tva-
luwvdeneli istoriis Rirseu-
lad tarebas unda naklebi amta-
noba.
dausruleblad duxWiri
cxovreba da gaWirvebasTan gaTene-
bidan daRamebamde brZola Zalau-
neburad aviwyebs kacs Tavis namd-
vil, WeSmarit warmomavlobas... es
unda Sewydes, bolo unda moeRos
amgvar yofa-cxovrebas da Wapanwy-
vetas.
raWvelebo, leCxumelebo, sva-
nebo, Tqveni mwvervalebi „qarTu-
li ocnebis“ mwvervalebia, da Cven
erTad davipyrobT maT, sityva mo-
micia!
„qarTuli ocnebisa“ da yvela
Cvenganis mizania, rom Tanabari
yuradRebiT da mTeli Zal-RoniT
vizrunoT saqarTvelos gulze,
yvelgan, sadac is feTqavs.
ase iqneba pirveli oqtombris
arCevnebSi Cveni gamarjvebis da
xelisuflebaSi „qarTuli ocne-
bis“ mosvlis pirvelive dRidan.
me gpirdebiT amas!
gansakuTrebuli sidinje da
Tavdauzogavi Sromis unari gamo-
garCevT Tqven, am kuTxis Svilebs
da esec am mTebSi cxovrebam gas-
wavlaT.
saukuneebma moitana, albaT, es
sidinje da sidarbaisle, samSob-
los dacvis pasuxismgeblobam da
sakuTari miwis siyvarulma da er-
Tgulebam Semogvinaxa raWac,
leCxumic da qvemo svaneTic.
dRes, amden gansacdels gamovlil
kuTxeebs, daclis safrTxe emuq-
reba.
Cven ver veRirseT iseT xeli-
suflebas, romlisTvisac Tavisi
qveynis movla-patronoba da Tavis
xalxze fiqri mTavari sazrunavi
iqneboda.
kavkasionis samxreT ferdobze
gadaSlil raWas, leCxumsa da
qvemo svaneTs bunebisgan uamravi
simdidre ergo. am mxareSi TiTq-
mis ar aris sofeli, sakuTari
Zvirfasi bunebrivi resursi rom
ar hqondes.
Tumca, yvelam kargad icis,
rogori movla-patronoba sWirde-
ba yvela aseT simdidres. nebismi-
eri qveyana, romelic aseTi re-
sursis patronia, mixedavda, gamo-
iyenebda da, sul cota, mSieri da
dausaxlebeli mainc ar eyolebo-
da mosaxleoba.
albaT, arsad sxvagan ar iRv-
reba ase umowyalod sasmeli wya-
li, rogorc CvenSi, maSin roca
Cvens mosaxleobas uwyloba stan-
javs, aRarafers vambob, minerale-
biT gajerebul samkurnalo mJave
wylebze, romelic ase uxvadaa
Cvens qveyanaSi da mimxedavi aravin
hyavs.
arsad sxvagan ar iCexeba ase
daundoblad tye, rogorc CvenSi,
nadgurdeba unikaluri buneba, ra-
sac ekologiuri katastrofebi
mosdevs Tan.
glexs tye waarTves, xalxo!
saqarTvelos tyeebis udidesi na-
wili xelisuflebis neba-survi-
liT erTi jgufis xelSia moqce-
uli. yvelaze didi simdidriT -
tyis resursiT veRar sargeblobs
adgilobrivi mosaxleoba.
aq, raWaSi, iSviaTi soWi izr-
deba, Cvenia, endemuri jiSia, ula-
mazesi vercxlisferi wiwvebiT. am
soWiT karga xania evropelebic
dainteresdnen da ukve ramdenime
welia, rac gaaqvT qveynidan.
magram visgan yiduloben am
soWs, vinaa axla tyis mepatrone?
ra Tqma unda, aq damswreTagan
aravin iqneba...
roca aseTi simdidrea sofel
TluRSi, ratom unda hqondes am
mcxovreb glexs lukma-puris ga-
saWiri?! monopolistebs aqvT
xelSi Cagdebuli da imitom, aba,
adgilobrivs da glexs vin gaaka-
rebs mag saqmes?! Cveni mosaxleo-
ba mxolod mojamagired sWirde-
baT! ramdeni adamianis janmrTe-
loba da sicocxle Seewira soWis
Teslis mopovebas, vin mosTvlis.
am qveynis dardi rom ara aqvs
am xelisuflebas da piradi ke-
TildReobisTvis rom zrunavs
mxolod, imiTac kargad Cans, rom
1 kilo soWis Teslidan biujets
6 lari Sesdis, maSin roca evro-
paSi saSualod 100 dolarad iyi-
deba.
an kidev, ra gvWirs aseTi,
xalxo, rom unikaluri jiSis
yurZeni - aleqsandrouli da mu-
jureTuli gqondes, saqveynod
aRiarebul xvanWkaras ayenebde da
mainc araferi etyobodes am
xalxs, mainc siduxWireSi
cxovrobdes.
ratomaa, rom 2001 wels
1 kilogram yurZens ufro
Zvirad ibarebda saxelmwi-
fo, vidre axla.
an ratom gaauqmes kano-
ni, romelic aseT Rvinos
gayalbebisgan icavda imiT,
rom Rvinis damzadeba mxo-
lod adgilze iyo SesaZle-
beli. amiT xvanWkarisa da
sxva Zvirfasi Rvinoebis fa-
lsifikaciis safrTxe xom
axlandelTan SedarebiT mn-
iSvnelovad iyo Semcirebu-
li.
2008 wels am xelisuf-
lebam amoiRo es norma da
axla xvanWkaras Tu ginda
aq, raWaSi, Camoasxam da Tu
ginda, msoflios nebismier
kuTxeSi - kaci ar aris gam-
kiTxavi.
xelisufleba am kuTxe-
Sic apirebs giganturi hese-
bis mSeneblobas da es ga-
dawyvetilebac iseve naCqa-
revad da naucbaTevad aqvs
miRebuli, rogorc saerTod
sCvevia.
hesebis mSeneblobis wi-
naaRmdegi aravinaa, magram es
Tqven, specialistebTan erTad un-
da gadawyvitoT, mcire hesebis
mSenebloba ufro waadgeba am
kuTxes da mTlianad Cvens qveya-
nas, Tu giganturi hesebis, rom-
lebsac uamravi problema sdevs
Tan, iqneba es ekologiuri Tu
migraciuli.
erT dros sofeli uravi, lu-
xumis xeobaSi, dariSxanis mompo-
vebeli iyo da dedamiwis erTi me-
eqvsedis - maSindeli sabWoTa kav-
Siris - mZime mrewvelobas amara-
gebda. axla sabado mitovebulia,
dariSxanis sacavi dazianebulia,
rac safrTxes uqmnis bunebas da,
rac mTavaria, adamianis janmrTe-
lobasa da sicocxles.
kidev ufro uaresadaa saqme
lentexSi, sofel canaSi, sadac
dariSxanis sabados mxolod mav-
TulxlarTebi icavs. amitom xal-
xi iwamleba da dRiTidRe matu-
lobs onkologiur daavadebaTa
ricxvi.
imdeni problema CamovTavle,
kaci ikiTxavs, araferi gaukeTe-
bia, aba, am xelisuflebaso?!
diax, am xelisuflebam gaakeTa
is, rom gauTvleli da ugunuri
gadawyvetilebebis Sedegad axla
mamisonis uReltexils rusebi
akontroleben. mamisonze, saqarT-
velos meteorologiur sadgurze,
axla ukve rusuli saguSagoa gax-
snili.
Cveni mesazRvreebi iZulebuli
gaxdnen daetovebinaT mamisonis
uReltexilis sakontrolo punq-
ti da qveynis siRrmeSi 20 kilo-
metriT ukan daexiaT, Tumca amas
utifrad uaryofs es xelisufle-
ba.
ase Caabara saakaSvilma kavka-
sionis sazRvari... ase flangavs
saqarTvelos!
rac sxvam, ucxom ver dagvak-
lo, am xelisuflebam Tavisi ugu-
nuri politikiT moaxerxa. mas
yvela Rone unda exmara sakuTari
mosaxleobis adgilze damagrebi-
saTvis, cxovrebis normaluri pi-
robebis SeqmnisaTvis, rom amiT
mainc SeeCerebina saukuneebis gan-
mavlobaSi bunebrivi mesazRvree-
bisgan - am kuTxis mkvidrebisgan
am miwebis dacla.
raWa-leCxum-qvemo svaneTSi
oficialurad amJamad 47 aTasi
adamiania daregistrirebuli, rac
2002 welTan SedarebiT 4 aTasi
adamianiT naklebia.
„vardebis revoluciis“ Sem-
deg ufro metma adamianma datova
mTa da qveyana. iseTi pirobebia
Seqmnili, rom adamianebs am
miwieri samoTxidan wasvla
uwevT.
umuSevroba Cveni xal-
xis erT-erTi mTavari prob-
lemaa. am xelisuflebam ara
Tu ar aRmofxvra umuSev-
roba, rogorc gvpirdeboda,
aramed am mxriv viTareba ki-
dev ufro damZimda. da es
gansakuTrebiT maRalmTian
regionebSi igrZnoba.
ganaxevrebulia skole-
bis raodenoba. bavSvi aRar
darCa soflebSi. arada, bav-
Svi xom sicocxlea, sofli-
sac da mTeli qveynisac.
saxelmwifoebrivad mo-
azrovne xelisufleba im
udides potencials gamoi-
yenebda, riTac ase cnobilia
raWa. es misi unikaluri
kurortebia. nebismier civi-
lizebul qveyanaSi aseTi
regioni namdvilad welga-
marTuli iqneboda.
raWis turistuli po-
tenciali nawilobrivadac
ar aris gamoyenebuli. xe-
lisuflebis dapireba, rom
Saori da Sovi turistuli
centri gaxdeboda, rogorc
yvela sxva SemTxvevaSi,
mxolod dapirebad darCa.
raWaSi miwisZvram daangria
ara erTi saxli. amdeni weli ga-
vida da stiqiiT dazaralebuli
xalxi axlac elodeba saxelmwi-
fosgan daxmarebas.
ramdeni gaWirveba, ramdeni
problema CamovTvale, ramdenia
kidev, romelsac ar Sevxebivar.
Cven gamosavali unda vipovoT,
yvelam erTad.
Cven am gaWirvebidan amosvla
saswrafod unda daviwyoT da amas
mxolod Tavdauzogavi SromiTa
da brZoliT SevZlebT.
Cveni erToblivi brZola 1-el
oqtombers unda movigoT!
Semodgomaze, TiTqmis erT
TveSi, saparlamento arCevnebSi
Cven didi arCevani gvaqvs gasake-
Tebeli. es arCevnebi iqneba brZo-
la Cveni samSoblosaTvis, Cveni
xalxisaTvis, da Cven am brZolaSi
aucileblad gavimarjvebT!
gamarjvebisTvis saWiroa da
gvaqvs kidec kargad gaazrebuli
da mkafio gegma, romelic nabij-
nabij unda ganvaxorcieloT.
am brZolaSi yvelani jariska-
cebad unda viqceT, TanamebrZole-
bad, da yvelas unda esmodes, rom
mis gareSe saerTo gamarjveba ver
miiRweva. Cven es viciT da amitom
Cven gavimarjvebT!!!
(pauza)
aq mravlad xarT svanebi Sek-
rebili - qvemo svaneTidan. amitom
ramdenime sityva minda giTxraT
svaneTze. vici, TavdaWerili xal-
xi xarT da zedmetad qeba ar giy-
varT. magram ris Tqmasac vapireb,
gadaWarbebuli namdvilad ar unda
iyos.
Tumca ra unda giTxraT, sva-
nebo, svaneTze... mTel Cvens qveya-
nas zemodan dahyurebT - medidu-
`raWa, leCxumi, qvemo svaneTi saqarTvelos kuTxeebia, magram guli da Suagulia yvelgan, sadac saqarTveloa~
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gvesaubreba koalicia `̀qqar-
Tuli ocnebis~ gardabnis raio-
nis maJoritari deputatobis
kandidati mamuka areSiZe::
_ batono mamuka, gardabani
sakmaod problemuri regionia,
ra situacia dagxvdaT adgilze,
ra awuxebs yvelaze metad adgi-
lobriv mosaxleobas?
_ daviwyeb imiT, rom mTel
saqarTveloSi gardabnis raioni
unikaluria Tavisi eTnikuri, re-
ligiuri da kuTxuri Semadgen-
lobiT. garda imisa, rom mosax-
leobis naxevarze meti araqarT-
veli, ZiriTadad, azerbaijanele-
bi arian, aseve cota somxebi,
rusebi, berZnebi da a.S. azerbai-
janelebic xom or religiur
jgufad sunitebad da Siitebad
iyofian, qarTvelebSi kuTxuri
Semadgenloba uaRresad Wrelia.
aris soflebi, sadac saqarTve-
los sxvadasxva kuTxis warmo-
madgenlebia Casaxlebuli _ qar-
Tleli, imereli, guruli, meg-
reli, garda amisa, ltolvilebi
samaCablodan da afxazeTidan.
aseve, ekomigrantebi _ svanebi da
aWarlebi, romlebic sxvadasxva
ekologiuri katastrofis gamo
am regionSi aRmoCndnen.
warmoidgineT, ro-gori siWrelea, yvelasTavisi pozicia, tradi-cia, cxovrebis wesiaqvs. am TvalsazrisiT,es raioni marTlac un-ikaluria, magram masaqvs udidesi saukunisproblema, riTac ga-morCeulia _ esaa uwy-loba. arada, igi, sab-WoTa periodSi, saxel-mwifos weliwadSi 3-4mosavals aZlevda daor did qalaqs rus-Tavs da Tbiliss kve-bavda, aseve, sabWoTakavSiris ramdenime didqalaqs.
dRes es sawarmoebi yvela ga-
Cerebulia. mTlianad moSlilia
sarwyavi sistema. rac Zalian
mniSvnelovania, moSlilia sasme-
li wylis sistemac. swored amis
gamoa, rom adamianebi dabinZure-
bul wyals svamen da Sedegad Za-
lian maRalia sxvadasxva tipis
daavadebaTa ricxvi. katastrofu-
lia ekologiuri viTarebac. iq
ganlagebulia qarxnebi, romel-
Tac filtrebi moSlili aqvT,
maTi mflobelebi filtrs Segne-
bulad ar amuSaveben, radgan es
Zviri jdeba da, praqtikulad
xalxs wamlaven. magaliTad, ase-
Ti sofelia Tazakendi, romlis
mosaxleoba cementis qarxnis ga-
monabolqvis gamo katastroful
mdgomareobaSia. katastroful
mdgomareobaSia gajis damamuSave-
beli karierebis gverdiT arsebu-
li soflebic. magaliTad, axali
samgori. gajs Ria wesiT amuSave-
ben, ar sruldeba kanoni, rome-
lic gaxsnili karieris amowur-
vis Semdeg mis damarxvasa da
mwvane nargavis gaSenebas gulis-
xmobs. aqedan gamomdinare, sof-
lebi _ gamarjveba da axali sam-
gori mTlianad mtverSia. mar-
tyofsa da saakaZes Soris radi-
aqtiuli narCenebis samarxia.
marTalia, es samarxi sarkofag-
Sia moqceuli da garkveulwilad
daculia, magram saqme Semdeg
uyairaTobasTan, danaSaulTan
gvaqvs _ dakargulia specialuri
Jurnali. aqedan gamomdinare, ara-
vin icis, ra weria iq da ra aris
damarxuli am sarkofagSi.
am samarxis TavzeZroxebi balaxs Zoven,patroni ar hyavs am ad-gils. Sesabamisad, mar-
tyofis mosaxleobasonkologiuri daavade-bebis kuTxiT seriozu-li problemebi aqvs.wylis problemis gamodaiwyo gardabnis samx-reTis zonis gaudabno-eba. Tu ase gagrZelda15 weliwadSi mTeligardabani udabno iqne-ba. es globaluri pr-oblemaa.
aseve aris sxva tipis prob-
lemebic, ZiriTadad, socialu-
ri, magaliTad, umuSevroba, ad-
gilobrivi mosaxleoba dasaqme-
buli araa da am dros ama Tu
im mSeneblobaze sxvadasxva qve-
ynidan Camoyvanili muSebi muSa-
oben. soflebSi ar aris ambu-
latoriebi, es regioni RvTis-
gan mitovebulia. samedicino
momsaxurebis sistema imdenad
areulia, adamianebma ar ician,
sad da vis mimarTon. martivi,
samedicino cnobis asaRebad
uzarmazari manZilis gavla ux-
debaT. rac Seexeba ganaTlebas,
xelisufleba ki trabaxobs aSe-
nebuli skolebiT, magram aqeT
mgoni, arc gamouxedavs. garda-
bani sportuli regionia, Wida-
obaSi uamravi evropis, msof-
lio da olimpiuri Cempioni
hyavs. am dros ki umetesi
sportuli darbazebis mdgoma-
reoba, veraviTar kritikas ver
uZlebs.
_ urTulesi problemebi Ca-
moTvaleT, Tavad rogor apirebT
am sakiTxebis gadaWras gamarjve-
bis SemTxvevaSi?
_ TandaTan vrwmundebiT, rom
ivaniSvilma am regionSi Cemi
wardgeniT swori gadawyvetile-
ba miiRo. imitom, rom es urTu-
lesi raionia da aq mogeba pres-
tiJis saqmea, raTa SemdgomSi mi-
si potencialis realizacia
moxdes. sircxvilia, Tbilisidan
15 kilometrSi mdebare raioni
aseT dReSi iyos. gardabani sa-
qarTveloSi yvelaze
didi raionia, magram
sigrZeSi sul 80 km-ia.
anu misi movla ar iyo
rTuli, Tbilisis ga-
reubnidan pirdapir
gardabani ebmeba da am
dros imdenad rTuli,
gansxvavebuli viTare-
baa gegoneba, sxva qve-
yanaSi moxvdi. am rai-
ons wlebis manZilze
erTi da igive wurbe-
lebi erTi da igive
kuTxidan asxdnen ki-
serze. klani, romelic
mravali welia raions
kiserze azis, mas
sisxls wovs. gardaba-
ni visac ar ezareba, yvelas ga-
nawilebis Temaa. aseul heqtro-
biT miwebi absoluturad ukano-
nodaa dakanonebuli.
_ gardabnis raionSi bevri
eTnikuri umciresoba cxovrobs.
qarTul sazogadoebaSi maTi in-
tegraciisTvis xelisufleba
arafers akeTebs. rogor gesaxe-
baT am problemis mogvareba?
_unda giTxraT, rom erovnu-
li umciresobis saxelmwifoeb-
rivi integraciis programa fasa-
duria. SeiZleba, qaRaldze kar-
gia, magram realurad ar srul-
deba. rogorc vatyob, Segnebu-
lad ar sruldeba. imitom ki
ara, rom ar SeuZliaT, aramed
Semdegi principis gamo _
rac SeiZleba metsibneleSi unda amyofoadamianebi, rom morCi-li iyos. amas akeTebsCveni xelisufleba, racazerbaijanelebis ma-galiTze naTlad Cans.azerbaijanlebis didinawilisTvis, es miwamaTi samSobloa, rad-gan aq sam saukuneze me-tia cxovroben. aqedangamomdinare, CvenTvismaTi integracia qarT-vel sazogadoebaSi mo-mgebiania.
rac Seexeba qarTuli enis
swavlebas Semdegi principiT
xdeba _ daiwyeba programa, 6-7
Tve aswavlian skolaSi qarTuls
da mere uceb es programa gauge-
bari mizezebiT wydeba. maswav-
leblebi ukan brundebian, bavSve-
bi ki uswavlelni rCebian. Sede-
gad, garemo maT aiZulebs mxo-
lod erTi ena _ mSobliuri
icodnen, man ar icis arc rusu-
li, arc qarTuli da araferi,
amis gamoa uswavleli da bneli.
azerbaijanelebi iTxoven, Cven
Svilebs qarTuli ena aswavle-
To. imis magivrad, rom am proeq-
tis gaaqtiureba moxdes, amis
nacvlad es xalxi RvTis anaba-
raa mitovebuli. rac Seexeba
kadrebs, romlebic saxelmwifo
aparatSi _ Zalovan Tu adminis-
traciul struqturebSia dasaq-
mebuli, _ es kadrebi SerCeulia
loialobis da ara kanonis mi-
xedviT sadac weria, rom saxel-
mwifo ena unda icode. miuxeda-
vad imisa, rom soflebSi saxel-
mwifo enis swavlebis Tvalsaz-
risiT, mZime mdgomareobaa, gar-
dabanSi qarTuli ena bevrma icis.
umaRlesi qarTul enaze Tbilis-
Si daamTavres, magram qarTul
enas ar iyeneben imitom, rom Tbi-
lisSi ganaTlebamiRebuli axal-
gazrda xelisuflebisTvis po-
tenciurad saSiSia. xelisufle-
bas adgilze ueno azerbaijaneli
sWirdeba, romelic administra-
ciaSi simbolurad iqneba, magram
brZanebas usityvod Seasrulebs.
ai, esaa integraciis procesi,
romelsac xelisufleba qvemo
qarTlSi, gardabnis raionSi avi-
Tarebs. ase rom araviTari in-
tegracia, piriqiT, dezintegra-
cia xdeba. magaliTad aviRoT,
rogori tipis propagandas ewe-
vian xelisuflebis warmomadgen-
lebi kuluarulad _ azerbaija-
nelebs eubnebian Tu opozicias
miscemT xmas, maSin 90-iani wle-
bi dabrundeba, qarTvelebi
Tqvens Zarcvas, Seviwrovebas,
saxlebSi Semovardnas, Tqveni
colebis gaupatiurebas daiwye-
beno da a.S. aseve, azerbaijane-
lebs, eubnebian _ opozicias ru-
seTTan urTierTobis aRdgena mis
bazarze Tqveni produqciis gasa-
tanad ki ar unda, aramed imitom,
rom somxebs gza gauxsnano. prin-
cipSi, es erovnebaTaSorisi SuR-
lis gaRvivebaa da romel integ-
raciazea saubari. Cven, piriqiT,
bevri adamiani gvWirdeba, rome-
lic saqarTvelos sazogadoebaSi
mTlianadaa integrirebuli da
romelsac materialuri dovla-
Tis Seqmnis saSualeba aqvs. am
adamianebis jgufs saSualo kla-
si hqvia, anu Tavisufali adamia-
nebi. rac ufro Tavisufali, in-
tegrirebuli iqneba adamiani sa-
qarTvelos sazogadoebaSi, miT
ufro seriozuli dasayrdenia
saxelmwifosTvis. esaa Cveni amo-
cana.
_ Tqven zemoT TqviT, xeli-
suflebas eSinia eTnikuri umci-
resobebiso, magram isini eTni-
kur umciresobebs, rogorc sa-
arCevno xmas, ise uyureben. maT
xan alievi dautatanebs _ xeli-
suflebas mieciT xmao, xan _
sarqisiani. faqtobrivad, Cveni
amomrCeveli mezobeli saxelmwi-
foebis prezidentebisgan imarTe-
ba. maSin visi arCevnebia es?
_ ar aris ase saqme, damTav-
rda eg ambavi. erTi kviris win
alievi azerbaijanis saxelmwifo
televiziiT gamovida da ganacxa-
da, rom aravis saqmeSi ar ereva
da saqarTvelos xelisufleba
Tavad moelaparakos sakuTar
xalxso.
kuluarulad vfl-obT informacias, romalievma Cveni xelisuf-lebis emisrebs ganu-cxada _ didxans vatyu-eT es xalxi, bevrjergaveciT dapirebebi daver SevasruleT, ami-tom am saqmeSi aRar Ca-verevio.
axla SeiZleba situacia Se-
icvalos. SeiZleba politikurma
koniunqturam Tavisi roli iTama-
Sos da alievis pozicia Seicva-
los, magram sxva ram minda giTx-
raT _ sofeli qesalos azerbai-
janel mosaxleobas, romelmac
erT mSvenier dRes aRmoaCina, rom
misi miwa, romelic arendiT hqon-
da aRebuli, Cumad gaiyida, sxvi-
sia da zamTarSi sakvebis gareSe
darCnen, amitom, mas arc oficia-
luri Tbilisi aRelvebs da arc
baqo. piriqiT, dRedaRam oficia-
luri baqos ginebaSia imis gamo,
rom ar exmarnen. qesalo uzarma-
zari sofelia sami saarCevno ub-
niT. mas ainteresebs ara is, baqo-
dan ras etyvian, aramed is, rom
xelisufleba Seicvalos da sa-
marTlianoba aRdges. aseve moeqc-
nen iormuRaloel glexebs _ xe-
daven, rom maT miwas dRes mezo-
beli qveynidan Camosuli adamiane-
bi amuSaveben, Tan maTTvis miuRe-
beli qveynidan. am sofelSi 12
aTasi macxovrebelia. am xeli-
suflebam Tavad gaukvala gza ga-
marjvebisken am regionSi wamoye-
nebul Cvens maJoritar kandi-
dats.
_ Tu aris TqvenTvis cnobi-
li, ra raodenobas Seadgens eT-
nikuri umciresobebis saarCevno
xmebi?
_ zust odenobas veravin
ityvis, uamravi adamiania qveyni-
dan wasuli. saqarTveloSi, sa-
erTod, erovnuli umciresobebi
17-18 procents Seadgens. es of-
icialuri cifrebia, magram rigi
soflebdan mosaxleobis naxevari
gasulia. magaliTad, gardabnele-
biT savsea minski, magnitogors-
ki, moskovi, igive mdgomareobaa
somxebTan dakavSirebiTac. java-
xeTSi, daaxloebiT, mosaxleobis
ori mesamedia darCenili. zus-
tad am xmebiT manipulirebas
cdilobs xelisufleba. amitom
hqvia javaxeTsa da qvemo qarTls
xmebis beReli. vici, rom xeli-
suflebam saqarTvelos rigi re-
gionebi saerTod miatova da
brZolas aRar apirebs. mTavari
xelisufleba iqamde mivida, rom gardabanSi soflis
mRvdlebsac ki daeria
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rad. mkacrebi da samarTlianebi
xarT. antikur xanaSi cnobili
iyo, rom svanebs asi aTasi meom-
ris gamoyvana SeeZloT. es im
dros warmoudgenlad didi jari
iyo.
ai, ra Soridan modixarT, ai,
ra didia Tqveni istoria, rome-
lic Cveni, qarTvelebis, istori-
isa da kulturis ara Tu ganuyo-
feli nawilia, aramed erT-erTi
uRrmesi fesvia.
misaxedia axla svaneTic, ise-
ve rogorc yvela maRalmTiani re-
gioni.
Cven avamoqmedebT maRalmTiani
regionebis Sesaxeb kanons, rome-
lic realurad Seuwyobs xels
mTis soflebis aRorZinebasa da
mosaxleobis dabrunebas.
Cven avamoqmedebT gansakuTre-
bul sagadasaxado SeRavaTebs in-
vestorebisaTvis, romlebic rea-
lur samuSao adgilebs Seqmnian
mTian da maRalmTian regionebSi.
xelisuflebis amocana iqneba
Tanabrad izrunos qveynis kuTxee-
bis socialur-ekonomikur ganvi-
Tarebaze. qveyanis arc erTi
kuTxe ar unda viTardebodes da-
narCeni mxareebis xarjze.
„qarTuli ocneba“ daamkvid-
rebs TviTmmarTvelobas - Cveni
moqalaqeebi TviTon miiReben ga-
dawyvetilebebs TavianT sofleb-
Si, raionebsa da qalaqebSi, Tavad
dagegmaven biujets da Tavad iqne-
bian misi ganmkargvelebi.
kanoniT iqneba gansazRvruli,
centridan ra Tanxa gadaecema ad-
gilobriv TviTmmarTvelobas. aRa-
rasodes iqneba damokidebuli am
Tanxis odenoba da gadacema-arga-
dacemis sakiTxi romelime Cinov-
nikis neba-survilze.
TviTmmarTvelobis sikeTes
yvelani igrZnobT. Cven amas gpir-
debiT!
sofels eyoleba patroni da
es patroni misi mosaxleoba iqne-
ba!
„qarTul ocnebas“ dagegmili
aqvs, aaRorZinos qarTuli sofe-
li da amisaTvis Seqmnas erTmi-
liardiani fondi. es ase iqneba, me
amas gpirdebiT!
Cveni gegmis mixedviT, soflis
meurneobaSi dasaqmebuli moqala-
qeebi SeZleben grZelvadiani,
xelmisawvdomi da SeRavaTiani
sesxebis aRebas da amiT sargeb-
lobas; mowesrigdeba miwis daka-
nonebis sakiTxebi da Seiqmneba sa-
Tanado garantiebi; glexebs xeli
SeewyobaT Tanamedrove teqnolo-
giebis aTvisebaSi, dafuZndeba ker-
Zo sawarmoebi, romlebic momxma-
rebels SesTavazeben sasoflo-sa-
meurneo inventars - traqtorebs
da yvela saWiro aRWurvilobas,
es sawarmoebi xels Seuwyoben maT
mosavlis aRebaSi, dabinavebaSi da,
saWiroebis SemTxvevaSi, dasawyo-
bebaSi, bazarze gatanasa da gasa-
RebaSi.
Cven SevcvliT arsebul poli-
tikas da qarTul sofels Tavis
namdvil mniSvnelobas davubru-
nebT, qarTul bazarze kvlav dab-
rundeba Cvens miwaze moyvanili
mosavali.
gpirdebiT, 1-eli oqtombris
Semdeg, roca Cven viqnebiT xeli-
suflebaSi, mxarSi amogidgebiT
da rTveli ise Caivlis, Tqven
rom gagixardebaT. am kuTxeSi
moyvanili unikaluri yurZnis fa-
sic iseTi iqneba, am yurZens rom
ekadreba.
Cven avaRorZinebT raWa-
leCxumSi saxelganTqmuli Rvino-
ebis warmoebas. “xvanWkara”, “usa-
xelauri”, “TeTra”, “aleqsandro-
uli”, “tviSi”, “ojaleSi” da
“cicqa” mzaddeba unikaluri yur-
Znis jiSebisagan. aRniSnuli dar-
gis ganviTareba Semosavlebis
mniSvnelovani wyaro gaxdeba ro-
gorc raWa-leCxum-qvemo svaneTis,
ise mTlianad saqarTvelosTvis.
Cven gvjera, rom soflis me-
urneobis aRorZinebis sikeTe Sex-
vdeba yovel adamians, yovel oj-
axs. amas igrZnobs yoveli Tqven-
gani, da Tqvens wvlils SeitanT
qarTuli soflis meurneobis aR-
orZinebis saqmeSi.
aravis egonos, leCxumi davi-
viwye. aris ki erTi gasaWiri ma-
inc am qveyanaSi, leCxums rom ar
awuxebdes? ara mgonia. leCxumi
is mxarea, romelic, vin icis, uam-
rav gasaocar saidumlos inaxavs
da dRemde aravis umxels.
mixvdiT albaT, rom xvamlis
mTaze mogaxsenebT. istoriuli
wyaroebis mixedviT, swored xvam-
lis masivSi, misi gamoqvabulebis
siRrmeSi inaxeboda qarTvel mefe-
Ta saganZuri, romelic jerac ar
aris gamokvleuli. am mTas, sxva-
Ta Soris, Turme, antikuri avto-
rebic icnobdnen.
uamravi legendaa xvamlis
mTasTan dakavSirebuli. am legen-
debis mixedviT, amirani mis siRr-
meSi, kldeze iyo mijaWvuli. le-
gendebs rom Tavi davaneboT, ara
erTi faqtobrivi dasturi arse-
bobs, rom xvamlis mTis masivi sa-
fuZvlian arqeologiur gamokvle-
vas saWiroebs.
aq, rogorc Cans, marTlac sa-
ocari aRmoCenebi gvelodeba sa-
qarTvelos uZvelesi istoriidan.
ara erTi qarTveli mecnieri-arqe-
ologi dainteresebula am prob-
lemiT, magram sakmarisi saxsrebis
uqonlobis gamo sasurvelis gake-
Teba ver SeZlo. maTi mTavari
ocneba xvamlis mTis Seswavla
iyo.
aseTi keTilSobiluri ocnebe-
bis asrulebaze Tu ar vizruneT,
raRa „qarTuli ocneba“ viqnebiT.
gpirdebiT, rom „qarTuli ocneba“
xelisuflebaSi mosvlis Semdeg,
qarTvel mecnierebsa da mkvlev-
rebsac mixedavs.
Torem xom xedavT, usaxsro-
bis gamo sakuTar istoriasac ki
ver CavwvdomivarT. arada, isto-
ria ganaTlebis erT-erTi mTavari
sayrdenia. ganaTlebis gareSe ki
ukeTes momavals ver veRirsebiT.
diax, erT-erTi mTavari prio-
riteti Cveni xelisuflebisTvis
iqneba ganaTleba.
Cven yvela sofelSi, sadac
bavSvebi cxovroben, aRvadgenT
skolas, yvela moswavles eqneba
xarisxiani ganaTlebis miRebis sa-
Sualeba da aRar mouwevT sofli-
dan sofelSi fexiT siaruli.
ojaxebs aRar eqnebaT saxelmZRva-
neloebis SeZenis problema. mas-
wavleblebi dafasebuli iqnebian,
maswavlebloba prestiJuli pro-
fesia gaxdeba, Tavisi Sromis Se-
satyvisi xelfasiT da socialuri
dacvis garantiebiT.
yvelaze mTavari da mniSvne-
lovani yoveli CvenganisTvis aris
jandacvis sakiTxi.
TiTqos jandacvas mixedes,
axali saavadmyofoebi aaSenes, mag-
ram am saavadmyofoebSi saTanado
profilis eqimebis naklebobaa da
amitom adamians Tu rame seriozu-
li daxmareba dasWirda, an quTa-
isSi unda Cavides anda, - Tbilis-
Si.
Cven mivxedavT Tqvens janmr-
Telobas, gpirdebiT!
„qarTuli ocneba“ gpirdebaT,
rom 1-el oqtombers arCevnebSi
gamarjvebis Semdeg, saxelmwifo
izrunebs uklebliv yvela moqa-
laqis janmrTelobaze!
„qarTuli ocneba“ gpirdebaT,
rom miwisZvriT dazaralebuli
ojaxebi aucileblad miiReben sa-
xelmwifos daxmarebas, romelsac
wlebia elodebian.
„qarTuli ocneba“ gpirdebaT,
rom Cven gaviyvanT gzas, romelic
ase sWirdeba raWis mosaxleobas.
es gza rikoTis uReltexilis ga-
reSe, saCxeris gavliT, daakavSi-
rebs raWas dedaqalaqTan.
Cven yvela danapirebs Sevas-
rulebT, amis sityvas me gaZlevT!
me gpirdebiT, rom saqarTve-
loSi kanoni ikanonebs. swored
kanoni mosTxovs pasuxs imaT, vinc
dRes ukanonobas sCadis.
ukanonoba da uzneobaa is,
rac am dReebSi ikadra am xeli-
suflebam - ukve bavSvebTan da-
iwyo angariSsworeba.
iciT albaT, aq, ambrolaurSi,
15-16 wlis fexburTel biWebs,
imis gamo, rom „qarTuli ocne-
bis“ maisurebi Caicves da ise ga-
vidnen raionul CempionatSi, fi-
nalSi monawileobis ufleba aRar
misces.
es aris „nacionaluri moZra-
obis“ da misi lideris namdvili
saxe - yvelas upirispirdeba,
vinc gabedavs da rame formiT sa-
kuTar pozicias gamoxatavs, da
yvela CaTreuli hyavs ukanonoba-
Si, viszec jer kidev SeuZlia
gavlenis moxdena.
yvelam viciT, rom nacionalu-
ri moZraobis aqtivistebis garda,
ubralo da, maTi azriT, umweo
xalxis daSinebaSi sxvebic mona-
wileoben. isic viciT, rom uSua-
lod arCevnebis procesisa da Se-
degebis gayalbebaSi xelisufleba
soflis mamasaxlisebisa da mas-
wavleblebis CaTrevas apirebs.
swored am adamianebs vafrTxi-
leb axla: ar daemonon xelisuf-
lebas da ar miiRon monawileoba
arCevnebis, anu Cveni saxelmwifos
momavlis gayalbebaSi!
Tu isini uars ar ityvian am
Zalian mZime danaSaulSi monawi-
leobaze, kanonis winaSe ageben pa-
suxs, radgan Cvens qveyanaSi, er-
Txel da samudamod, kanonis uze-
naesoba unda damyardes! da dam-
yardeba kidec! amis sityvas me
gaZlevT!
saakaSvili da misi xelisuf-
lebis warmomadgenlebis muqarebs
bolo ar uCans. xmamaRla bedaven
imis Tqmas, rom me qarTuli sa-
xelmwifos mteri var da ruseTis
samsaxurSi vdgavar.
es utifari tyuilia, rome-
lic erTaderT mizans emsaxureba:
xalxs Cemi ndoba daakargvinos da
qveynis mtrad gamomacxdon.
aqamde mecineboda maT tyui-
lebze, magram axla ukve Cvens
mravalricxovan mxardamWerebsac
moRalateobas abraleben da amiT
saSinel Seuracxyofas ayeneben.
naTlad vxedav saakaSvilis
borot ganzraxvas - Tavisi Zala-
uflebis SesanarCuneblad mzad
aris, adamianebi samkvdro-sasi-
cocxlod gadahkidos erTmaneTs.
ai, es ganzraxvaa miutevebeli
danaSauli qveynis winaSe, rome-
lic, ara mgonia, gonierma da
Rirsebis mqone xalxma dauSvas!
ar SegeSindeT, xalxo, Cvens
mxaresaa civilizebuli samyaro,
am dReebSi maT mkafiod gamoxates
TavianTi pozicia da leninizmad
Seafases am xelisuflebis saqci-
eli. amaze mwvave Sefaseba ra un-
da iyos!
diax, aRaravin daxuWavs
Tvals arCevnebis gayalbebaze!
aRar gauvaT!
Cven simarTles gavukvlevT
gzas da samarTlianobas davamk-
vidrebT Cvens qveyanaSi.
1-el oqtombers „qarTuli
ocneba“ aucileblad gaimarjvebs
arCevnebSi, Secvlis am xelisuf-
lebas da gpirdebiT, rom:
Cven erTad SevqmniT iseT qve-
yanas, romliTac viamayebT Cven
da iamayeben Cveni momavali Tao-
bebi!
Cven iseT qveyanas avaSenebT,
sadac veRaravin waarTmevs xalxs
Tavis arCevans!
Cven Rirsebas davubrunebT
Cvens qveyanas!
Cven Rirsebas davubrunebT
Cvens xalxs!
Cven gavaerTianebT Cvens xa-
lxs!
Cveni qveyana Tavs daaRwevs ga-
Wirvebas!
Cven iseT qveyanas avaSenebT,
sadac aRaravis dasWirdeba lukma-
puris saSovnelad samSoblodan
gadaxvewa.
me gpirdebiT, rom Cven Sevam-
cirebT gaumarTleblad maRal
komunalur gadasaxadebs, pensia
aranaklebi iqneba, vidre saarse-
bo minimumia. Tavad saarsebo mini-
mumis odenobac gadaixedeba, Seic-
vleba da realur odenobas gau-
toldeba.
Cven gavaormagebT socialur
daxmarebas da amas miiRebs yvela,
visac es namdvilad sWirdeba. so-
cialuri daxmareba aRarasodes
aRaravis ar eqneba mosapovebeli
Rirsebis Selaxvisa da damcire-
bis xarjze, me amas gpirdebiT!
me gpirdebiT, rom „qarTuli
ocneba“ TqvenTan erTad ibrZo-
lebs da ukeTesobisken Secvlis
yvela adamianis cxovrebas!
saqarTveloSi daculi iqneba
adamianis yvela ufleba, azrisa
da sityvis Tavisufleba; sasamar-
Tlo iqneba samarTliani, media -
damoukidebeli, biznesi - xelSeu-
xebeli!
iseT qveyanas avaSenebT, sadac
Cvens saamayo jariskacebsa da po-
licielebs miecemaT imis SesaZ-
lebloba, rom Rirseulad emsaxu-
ron saxelmwifos!
Tavisufal saqarTveloSi Ta-
visufali xalxi icxovrebs, ro-
melsac aRar eqneba politikuri
devnis SiSi! me amas gpirdebiT!
qarTvelebi, osebi, afxazebi,
ebraelebi, azerbaijanelebi, som-
xebi, rusebi, berZnebi da sxvebi
iseT qveyanas avaSenebT, romelic
samSoblo iqneba yvelasTvis!
saqarTvelo gaxdeba Tavisufa-
li, demokratiuli qveyana, evro-
puli Tanamegobrobis Rirseuli
wevri!
am brZolaSi Cven erTmaneTs
vWirdebiT, da Cven erTmaneTi
gvWirdeba. mxolod erTad dgomiT
movigebT am brZolas!
Cven gvwams da mtkiced gvje-
ra, rom gavimarjvebT arCevnebSi,
qarTveli xalxi gaimarjvebs, sa-
qarTvelo gaimarjvebs, Cven erTad
SevqmniT ukeTes momavals da er-
Tad avisrulebT qarTul ocnebas!
3 gv. `raWa, leCxumi, qvemo svaneTi saqarTvelos kuTxeebia, magram guli da Suagulia yvelgan, sadac saqarTveloa~
6 saerTo gazeTi #37 (221), 29.VIII-4.IX, 2012 w.
televizori CavrTe da ekra-
nidan viRac qalbatoni gamovar-
da yviriliT: _ wadiT, wadiT,
mteria eg, mteri!
qalbatons axalgazrda mama-
kacebi aSoSminebdnen, magram ama-
od _ is mainc videokamerisken
miiwevda da _ mteria eg, mte-
rio, _ gahkioda mTeli xmiT.
rogorc gairkva, qalbatoni
mterSi biZina ivaniSvils gu-
lisxmobda...
...gzispiras Sekrebil adamia-
nebs avtomanqanam Cauqrola da
raRac siTxe Seasxura.
TeTri boliT gadaipenta
iqauroba...
Sekrebis monawileebSi CoC-
qoli atyda _ zogs guli ere-
oda, zogs Tvalebi ewvoda,
zogs, axvelebda da sunTqva
uWirda.
Sekrebilebs, romlebic `qar-
Tuli ocnebis~ mxardamWerebi
aRmoCndnen, amerikuli peplis
sawinaaRmdego Sxam-qimikatis
xsnari Seasxures.
imave saRamos televiziiT
viRac axalgazrda kaci gamovida
(mgoni, sursaTis erovnuli saa-
gentos xelmZRvaneli) da sazo-
gadoebas auwya: _ nu geSiniaT,
peplis sawinaaRmdego Sxam-qimi-
kati adamianis janmrTelobisT-
vis absoluturad uvnebeliao.
adamians SefurTxebac ar
klavs, magram es imas ar niS-
navs, rom unda SeafurTxo. ada-
mianis janmrTelobisTvis SeiZ-
leba arc talaxi iyos didad
saxifaTo, magram es imas ar
niSnavs, rom adamians talaxi
unda esrolo. Tqven warmoidgi-
neT, adamiani arc panRuriT
mokvdeba, magram amis gamo ada-
mians panRuri xom ar unda amo-
artya da bolos, adamians SeiZ-
leba peplebis sawinaaRmdego es
Tqveni Sxam-qimikatic ar klavs,
magram mainc ar unda Seasxuro,
radgan is adamiania da ara pe-
pela, Tanac amerikuli.
erTi Cemi megobris monayols
giyvebiT _ kiroks, romelic
profesiiT `JeStianCiki~ iyo,
magram im areul-dareul 90-ian
wlebSi sakmaod mniSvnelovani
saqmeebi ebara, hkiTxes _ rodis
dawynardeba es qveyana da rodis
gveSvelebao?
_ rodis gveSveleba da ma-
Sin, me rom isev saxuravze aval
da sardali loTi kidev Tavis
puris `furgons~ daubrundebao.
es sityvebi TiTqmis oci
wlis winaT aris naTqvami, magram
am xnis ganmavlobaSi araferi
Secvlila. _ saxelmwifo saqme-
ebis gadawyvetas kvlav `JeSti-
anCikebi~, diasaxlisebi, `gruza-
vikis~ mZRolebi cdiloben.
yvela profesia didebuli da
saamayoa, magram isic ar unda
iyos sakmaTo, rom puri mepurem
unda gamoacxos, qudi mequdem
unda Sekeros, politikosma po-
litikas unda mixedos.
CvenTan ki yvelaferi isev pi-
riqiTaa: politikosebi `prara-
boben~, `prarabebi~ politiko-
soben, quds mepure keravs, purs
mequde acxobs, xolo Cemma Ta-
nasoflelma qalbatonma da mis-
ma politikurma `daqalebma~
zustad ician, vin aris saqarT-
velos mteri, vin aris ruseTis
kaci, vin visTan aris Sekruli
da vin visTan garigebuli.
Cemo Zvirfaso dapativcemulo qalba-tonebo, kargi ojaxiskargo diasaxliseboobujidan, karaleTi-dan, duSeTidan, mere-Tidan _ Zalian mainte-resebs, saidan iciTTqven es yvelaferi?saidan iciT Tqven, vinaris mteri, vin arisjaSuSi, vin visTan ar-is Sekruli da garige-buli?
Tqven ra, saidumlo masaleb-
ze migiwvdebaT xeli, sadazver-
vo samsaxurebTan gaqvT kavSiri
Tu saxelmwifoTa meTaurebis
Sexvedrebis kuluarul infor-
maciebs gawvdiT vinme?
qalbatonebs rom Tavi dava-
neboT, saidan ician, vin aris
mteri da vin aris ruseTis ka-
ci im batonebma, ivaniSvilis
xalxis danaxvaze qvebs rom das-
wvdebian xolme?
yvelafers rom TavidavaneboT, es qvebissrola saidan iswav-leT, Tqve dalocvile-bo, papuasebi xarT TuqarTvelebi xarT, uZve-lesi kulturis da uZ-velesi civilizaciiseris Svilebi?
XXI saukunea da imis nacv-
lad, rom rogorc civilizebul
ers ekadreba, ise moviqceT,
ukan, gamoqvabulebisken mivdi-
varT?
papuasebio, vaxseneT zemoT
da papuasebic ki ar isvrian uk-
ve qvebs da Cven raRa dagvemar-
Ta?
iciT Tu ara Tqven, rom qar-
Tveli kacisTvis, vaJkacisTvis,
udides sircxvilad iTvleboda,
qvas rom daswvdomoda da kacis-
Tvis esrola?
qvasrolia eris iarliys nu
miviwebebT am ocdameerTe sauku-
neSi _ sircxvilia es da Tavis
moWraa...
demokratiis mTavari nakli
isaa, rom normaluris da aranor-
maluris, Wkvianisa da uWkuos,
moazrovnis da gonebaClungis, ge-
niosis da briyvis, ganaTlebulis
da uwignuris xmas Tanabari wona
da fasi aqvs da arCevnebis Sede-
gebi imazea damokidebuli, gonie-
rebi sWarboben am Tu im sazoga-
doebaSi Tu ugnurebi?
damoukideblobis miRebis
dRidan saqarTvelos winaSe
swored es umTavresi problema
dgas _ ra gadasZalavs _ goni-
ereba Tu ugunureba?
1 oqtombers gairkveva, ada-
mianTa ra kategoria Warbobs
Cvens sazogadoebaSi...
piradad CemTvis es arCevnebi
swored amiT aris saintereso
da RirsSesaniSnavi...
vaxtang xarCilava
saidan ician ojaxis diasaxlebma vin aris saqarTvelos mteri
da ruseTis kaci?
imedi isev qvemo qarTlis da
javaxeTis aqvs. magram Cven yve-
lafers gavakeTebT xmebis dasa-
cavad, seriozuli sqema gvaqvs
mofiqrebuli. Sedegi iqneba
iseTi, rogoric Cven gvinda, Tu
xelisuflebam TviTon arCevne-
bis dRes omi, yuTebis gatace-
ba, quCaSi xalxis daxocva, da-
patimrebebi ar daiwyo.
_ amis saSiSroebas xedavT?
_ rasakvirvelia, saSiSroeba
aris. xelisuflebis qcevidan,
prezidentis amas winandeli gan-
cxadebidan _ arCevnebSi gamarj-
veba nebismer fasad _ gamomdi-
nare, rogorc sCans, yvelaferze
wamsvlelia. arCevnebSi gamarj-
veba nebismier fasad _ aseT ra-
mes hitleri ityoda albaT. Tu
demokratias RaRadeb, maSin ga-
marjveba nebismier fasad ar ar-
sebobs. zRvari moxsnilia, ne-
bismieri fasi yvelaferia, SeiZ-
leba meore diliT yvela aqti-
visti daxvriton. manamde boke-
riam Tqva _ Cven yvelaferze
wavalT, izolaciis fasadac
rom dagvijdeso. iZulebulni
varT, maT naTqvams yuri davug-
doT. xalxi, rasakvirvelia, da-
Sinebulia, magram nacionalebis
mimarT agresiulni arian. gar-
dabnis raionSi erTi sofelia,
romlisac nacionalebs iqiT
eSiniaT da verafers bedaven.
_ mizezi ra aris?
_ is, rom es aris qarTuli
sofeli, sadac mosaxleobas mi-
webi gauyides. dRes, saswrafo
wesiT, viRacebs ukan ubruneben
miwebs, ukanoneben. magram am so-
felSi miwebs ver ukanoneben
imitom, rom es miwebi iseT
xalxs aqvs waRebuli, maT ver
arTmeven, raTa Zvel mflobe-
lebs isev daukanonon. am so-
fels verafriT daaSineb, xalxi
mSieria da yvelafrisTvis mza-
daa. magram sxvagan aris daSine-
bis faqtebi, ver getyviT, rom
arCevnebi 100 procentiT moge-
bulia. sofelSi informaciul
vakuumSi myof xalxze zemoqme-
debs SeZaxili TiTqos ruseTis
agentebi varT. garda amisa, ax-
laxan gardabnis centrSi Cveni
eqvsi aqtivisti (oRond ar
icodnen, rom isini `qarTuli
ocnebidan~ iyvnen), gaaCeres da
manqanidan gadmosulma administ-
raciis warmomadgenelma maT
100-100 lari da maisurebi _
`me miyvars saqarTvelo~ dauri-
ga. azerbaijanelebsac, qarTve-
lebsac urigeben 200-300 lars,
zogs warTmeul miwebs ukanone-
ben, mimdinareobs totaluri
mosyidva. amas samwuxarod, ver
vaZlevT Sesabamis Sefasebas imi-
tom, rom bevr maTgans eSinia
amis Tqmis, Tanac Cven ar gvaqvs
dacvis iseTi meqanizmebi, rogo-
ric gvinda, rom gvqondes. Tum-
ca, rasakvirvelia, SegviZlia
amaze didi ambis atexva, avte-
xavT kidec, garkveulwilad in-
formacias vagrovebT. uamravi
daSinebis faqtebia. Cven am da-
Sinebis faqtebs ucxoel damk-
virveblebs vawvdiT.
erT faqts gety-viT, erT-erTi sof-lis mRvdeli, rome-lic Riadaa Cveni momx-re, SuaRameze saxli-dan gamoiyvanes daaTas sikeTes hpirde-bodnen, raTa Cven mxa-res aRar yofiliyo,magram aman rom argaWra, muqaraze gada-vidnen. xelisuflebaukve iqamde mivida,rom soflis mRvdl-ebsac daeria.
_ ZiriTadad, opozicia xe-
lisuflebis 30 procentze sa-
ubrobs, magram es rom gaigo,
amomrCevlis zusti raodenoba
xom unda icode, Tanac am pro-
centSi administraciul re-
surss TvliT da ara gayalbe-
bul xmebs, xom?
_ rasakvirvelia, gayalbe-
buli xmebi ar iTvleba, magram
nawilobriv iTvleba. roca 30-
procentian resurszea saubari,
esaa maqsimumi imisa, rom yvela
administraciuli da Zalovani
struqturis TanamSromeli da
maTi ojaxis wevrebi xmas xe-
lisuflebas aZleven. sinamdvi-
leSi, sul mcire, parlamentis
10-12 TanamSromeli da maTi
ojaxis wevrebi vici, romlebic
namdvilad ar miscemen xmas na-
cionalebs e.i. ar aris es maq-
simaluri ricxvi. rasakvirve-
lia, SeiZleba 30 procentic
miiRon da 35 procentic, mag-
ram es sxva meqanizmia. mxardam-
Werebi rom hyavs nac. moZrao-
bas, amas rad unda laparaki,
magram me iZulebaze vsaubrob.
xelisufleba nacionaluri
arxebis meSveobiT amkvidrebs
azrs, rom gamarjveba mainc maT
darCebaT. jer erTi, amas ar un-
da avyveT. meore, gvaqvs meqaniz-
mebi, Tu rogor movaxerxoT ada-
mianebis gaaqtiureba arCevnebam-
de, mesame _ xalxma unda ico-
des, rom xelisufleba ar geg-
mavs arCevnebis mogebas, aramed
gegmavs gamanadgurebel gamarj-
vebas. xalxma winaswar unda
icodes, xelisufleba yvelafer-
ze midis, raTa didi angariSiT
gaimarjvon. aqedan gamomdinare,
xalxi sabrZolvelad Rirsebis
dasacvad mzad unda iyos.
Tamar SveliZe
4 gv.
xelisufleba iqamde mivida, rom gardabanSi soflis
mRvdlebsac ki daeria
7#37 (221), 29.VIII-4.IX, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi
gvesaubreba koalicia `qar-
Tuli ocnebis~ maJoritarobis
kandidati walenjixis raionSi
giorgi naWyebia
_ batono giorgi, Tqven ko-
alicia `qarTulma ocnebam~ wa-
lenjixis maJoritari deputa-
tobis kandidatad dagasaxe-
laT, gviambeT cota ram Tqvens
Sesaxeb _ vin aris giorgi
naWyebia?
_ davibade zugdidSi
1956 wels. pirveli pro-
fesiiT inJiner-teqnikosi
var da sami wlis ganmav-
lobaSi sofel jvarSi
vmuSaobdi engurhesze.
Semdeg iuridiul fa-
kultetze Caviricxe
da miviCnev, rom ro-
gorc pirvelad, meo-
redac SesaniSnavi
profesia avirCie. Tum-
ca iuridiulze Cemi Ca-
ricxva araCveulebrivi pi-
rovnebis, Rirseuli kacis ba-
ton lado Wanturias Zalisx-
meviT moxda. gia, Sen unda Caa-
baro iuridiulze, _ Semaxse-
nebda xolme xSir-xSirad. mec
avdeqi da Cavabare (iRimeba). ga-
vida dro da me isani-samgoris
raionis mosamarTled daviniS-
ne. ar ifiqroT, TiTqos karie-
raze vyofiliyavi gagiJebuli.
yofila SemTxvevebi, roca bevr
Tanamdebobaze vTqvi uari. maT
Soris uzenaesi sasamarTlos
mosamarTleobaze, radgan aras-
dros vyofilvar upasuxismgeb-
lo da yovelTvis megona, ama
Tu im mniSvnelovan postze
yofna imxela tvirTi iqneboda,
romlis zidvasac ver SevZleb-
di da ar mindoda, Cemi azriT,
saqme gamefuWebina.
sxvaTa Soris, 1994-95
wlebSi samegrelos guberna-
torobazec uari ganvacxade.
igive mosazrebiT, rac zemoT
mogaxseneT. saxelmwifo samsa-
xuri arasdros mimaCnda privi-
legiad, amas did pasuxismgeb-
lobad vTvlidi.
_ gamodis, rom saakaSvilis
SefasebiT, korumpirebuli sa-
samarTlo sistemis mosamarT-
le yofilxarT.
_ marTlac sainteresoa,
saakaSvilma im periodis sasa-
marTlo sistemas korumpire-
bulTa sistema ratom uwoda.
SemiZlia Tamamad vTqva: im pe-
riodSi moRvaweobda seriozu-
li iuristebis kohorta, rom-
lebic marTlac saqmis mcodne-
ebi iyvnen. sistemaSi, albaT,
iyvnen korumpirebulebic, mag-
ram mTlianobaSi maTze cudi
ar iTqmis. magaliTad, me ar
maxsovs, rom Cems, rogorc mo-
samarTlis gadawyvetilebaSi
vinme Careuliyo _ verc xeli-
sufleba, verc mTavroba da
verc Cemze maRla mdgomi Ta-
namdebobis piri, amas ver gabe-
davda, magram movida 2004 we-
li da me vigrZeni nacionalu-
ri klanWebis simware _ da-
iwyes `zakazebis~ mocema, mo-
samarTleebs nel-nela Zala-
ufleba ekargebodaT, Tumca
yvelaze didi tragizmi is
iyo, rom xelisuflebidan Tu
ityodnen _ daiWire, unda da-
geWira, udanaSaulo adamianze
Tu gibrZanebdnen _ gaasamarT-
le, unda gagesamarTlebina,
camde marTalic rom yofili-
yo. me didxans ver makadres
aseTi davalebebi, magram bo-
los mainc momadgnen da am ni-
adagze momivida kidec serio-
zuli konfliqti.
erT dRes mewvia erTi me-
tad pativsacemi adamiani da
meubneba: ama da am kacs 4 we-
liwadi unda miusajoo. me
saqmes ar vicnobdi da vifiq-
re, albaT, axlobelia, 8 we-
liwadi ekuTvnis da oTxs ami-
tomac mTxovs-meTqi da vuTxa-
ri: gadavxedav saqmes da rac
SesaZlebeli iqneba, imas gava-
keTeb-meTqi. Cavixede saqmeSi
da ras vxedav _ kaci ukanono
patimaria. meore dRes Sevxvdi
da vuTxari: oTxi weli ki
ara, es patimari sasamarTlo
darbazidan aris gasaSvebi-
meTqi. maSin adeiSvilTan wa-
val da gavarkvevo. mokled,
bolos sami weliwadi mainc
miusajeo, am winadade-
biT dabrunda.
_ ras erCodnen, ra
undodaT am udanaSaulo
adamianisgan?
_ es udanaSaulo
adamiani Jurnalisti
iyo, romelsac dawerili
hqonda statia oqruaS-
vilsa da qarelze ergne-
Tis bazrobis gauqmebas-
Tan dakavSirebiT _ gaa-
uqmes ergneTis erTiani
bazari, daqsaqses sxva-
dasxva adgilas da Semo-
savlebs inawilebeno. es
ar apaties da mizezebis
Zebna dauwyes.
_ modiT, walenjixas
davubrundeT. batono gi-
orgi, fesvebi walenji-
xis raionSi gqoniaT. kargad
icnobT dRes raionis proble-
mebs? miT ufro, rom walenji-
xam gasuli saukunis 90-iian
wlebSi gansakuTrebiT mZime
dReebi gadaitana...
_ walenjixa samoqalaqo
omis periodSi samxedro Sena-
erTebis bude iyo. uvardebod-
nen ojaxSi, klavdnen, Zarcvav-
dnen, wvavdnen saxlebs. bolos,
rogorc iqna, dastabilda si-
tuacia, magram raionSi daisad-
gura udidesma zizRma eduard
SevardnaZisadmi. es gaxda Sem-
deg mizezi walenjixidan `re-
voluciis dawyebis~... bevr wa-
lenjixels dResac amitom uy-
vars saakaSvili. magram yvela-
ze saintereso mainc is aris,
rom samegrelos raionebi
fasadurad mainc Secvlilia,
aqa-iq raRac aris gakeTebu-
li, magram walenjixa isev
gapartaxebulia. rom ityvi-
an, RmerTisganac da kacis-
ganac mitovebuli da gave-
ranebulia.
walenjixis tyes Cine-
lebia Seseuli.
Waniswyali sagrZnoblad
dapataravda imis gamo, rom ga-
iCexa da gaveranda wablis uni-
kaluri tyeebi.
erTi SexedviT Rarib wa-
lenjixas tyis saxiT udidesi
simdidre aqvs, SesaniSnavi sa-
kurorto adgili _ squri
upatronodaa mitovebuli. gam-
geblisTvis uTqvamT _ squram-
de gza gavakeToT, turistebi
Camovlen, raions eSvelebao.
gamgebels upasuxia _ jer Ca-
movidnen turistebi da gzas
mere gavakeTebTo...
_ batono giorgi, icodiT,
rom koaliciidan deputato-
bis kandidatad dagasaxelebd-
nen?
_ Cemi wardgena ucnaurad
moxda. kandidatebis didi nawi-
li ukve cnobili iyo, roca me
damirekes da deputatobis kan-
didatoba SemomTavazes. me,
praqtikulad, uari vTqvi: rai-
onSi lado Wanturia iyos da
me deputatobis kandidatad vi-
yaro kenWi-meTqi? baton lados
samecniero saqmianobis gamo
elementaruli dro da saSua-
leba ara aqvs, germaniaSi uni-
versitetSi kaTedris gamgea da
misTvis advili ar iqneba par-
lamentis deputatobao, miTx-
res. amis Semdeg davTanxmdi.
vici, brZola ukompromiso da
mZime iqneba, magram sxva gamosa-
vali ar aris. walenjixa Cemi
mSobliuri raionia. misi ke-
TildReobisTvis brZola namd-
vilad Rirs.
_ Tu icnobT walenjixis
axlandel deputats? vin aris
axla Tqveni mTavari konkuren-
ti?
_ walenjixis maJoritari
deputati biznesmeni roman fi-
fia, ZiriTadad, ruseTSi moR-
vaweobs da mgoni, kargad qar-
Tulic ki ar icis.
am arCevnebSi ki Cemi konku-
renti levan qardava gaxlavT.
_ cnobili megis qardavas
mogvare yofila.
_ mogvare ki ara, mejvare
da naTesavicaa. masac moskovSi
aqvs gaSlili saqmianoba.
magram mTavari isaa, rom Za-
lovan struturebTan daaxlo-
ebul adamianTan gviwevs konku-
rencia.
raionis dRevandeli gamgebe-
li isic gvarad qardava, faqtob-
rivad, marionetia, magram Sesa-
niSnavad gamosdis adamianebis
`Sewamlva~ amerikuli peplis
sawinaaRmdego saSualebebiT...
me dRes imis ufleba ar
maqvs, restoranSi davpatiJo
axlobeli da xelisufleba
usasyidlod ukanonebs walen-
jixaSi glexebs miwebs. adre
gaekeTebinaT, magram axla
sWirdebaT da akeTeben. daxma-
rebas ugzavnian, SeSas urigeben
da a.S. es CvenTvis Tu akrZa-
lulia, maTTvis nebadarTulia.
_ ra gegmebi gaqvT? ras ga-
akeTebs `qarTuli ocneba~ da
giorgi naWyebia walenjixisT-
vis?
_ daaxloebiT 20-25 Sex-
vedra ukve Catarebuli maqvs.
TiTqmis yvela sofelSi, yvela
ojaxSi Sevdivar, rom gavigo,
ra uWirT, ra ulxinT.
ZiriTadi saprogramo doku-
mentebi `qarTul ocnebas~ da
biZina ivaniSvils aqvs. magram,
cxadia, mec maqvs Cemi gegmebi
da arCevnebSi gamarjvebis Sem-
deg daviwyeb maT ganxorciele-
bas. mimaCnia, rom mesaqonleoba
walenjixaSi erT-erTi priori-
tetuli unda gaxdes, vfiqrob,
Cais kultura isev unda ava-
RorZinoT, meabreSumeoba da
a.S.
gagecinebaT da, dRes iseT
situaciaSi var, rogorSic Ta-
vis droze utu miqava iyo _
samarTlis aRdgenas vapireb wa-
lenjixaSi da rogorc utu mi-
qava ambobda: `koCis koCi~ unda
movspo, kaci unda kacobdes da
yvelam erTiani samarTliT un-
da icxovros.
soflis meurneoba ZiriTadi
prioriteti unda gaxdes rai-
onSi. gasaumjobesebelia inf-
rastruqtura. msoflioSi, al-
baT, arsad ar iqneba iseTi ug-
zooba, rogoric walenjixaSia.
magaliTad, sofeli saCino ram-
denime kilometriT aris daSo-
rebuli raionuli centridan
da saCinomde cxenis gzac ki
aRar aris. soflidan sofelSi
SeuZlebelia manqaniT gadasv-
la. arada, ulamazesia yvelafe-
ri. walenjixaze lamazi bevri
adgili ar iqneba saqarTvelo-
Si, Tavisuflad SemiZlia amis
Tqma.
_ rogor midis winasaarCev-
no procesi?
_ warmoidgineT, rom arc
megona, amdens Tu SevZlebdi,
xalxTan Sexvedrisas vcdilob
bolomde vaCveno am xelisuf-
lebis maxinji saxe. isev Sevdi-
var azartSi, emociebisgan la-
mis cremlebi wamomivides.
xalxs uWirs. sxvanairad arc
SeiZleba.
_ batono gia, Tqven xarT
iuristi, samarTlismcodne. Tq-
veni azriT, SeiZleba ka-
nonierad `nacionalur
moZraobas~ arCevnebSi
mougo?
_ diax, marTlac Zne-
lia. es adamianebi saxel-
mwifoebriobanas TamaSo-
ben da erTobian. biujeti
gadaabares e.w. ndobis
jgufs, romlis Semadgen-
lobaSi bokeria, kublaS-
vili da maTnairebi arian
da Cven gvaiZuleben amaT
gamovucxadoT ndoba.
demokratiuli brZo-
la amaTTan, ra Tqma un-
da, Znelia. aq arc fsev-
dodemokratiaa, arc sru-
li totalitarizmi. usa-
marTloba zeimobs dRes
saqarTveloSi. saqarTvelos
Tavis droze hqonda mowinave
evropuli samarTali. adamianis
uflebebi maqsimalurad iyo
daculi. dRes racaa, yvela
vxedavT.
mokled, yvelas gvesmis,
rac xdeba irgvliv, magram uam-
ravi SemTxvevaa bolo xanebSi,
roca `nacionalebidanac~ ki
gadmovidnen `qarTul ocneba-
Si~. mas Semdeg, rac ivaniSvil-
ma gamoacxada, arc erTi pro-
fesionali umuSevari ar darCe-
bao, xalxs moexsna SiSi. zogi-
erTi Cumad meubneba, mxars
`qarTul ocnebas~ vuWero.
brZola iqneba, magram gamarjve-
ba gardauvalia...
iranda kalandaZe
gagecinebaT, magramdRes iseT situaciaSi
var, rogorc Tavisdroze utu miqava iyo...
8 saerTo gazeTi #37 (221), 29.VIII-4.IX, 2012 w.
albT gsmeniaT aseTi anekdo-
ti: siyvarulis xasiaTze mo-
sulma marom mixo rom vera-
friT gaaRviZa, yurSi Cahyvira:
_ `ade, kaco, ade, mteri mog-
vadga, mteri, gaiRviZe Se sasik-
vdile! `mteriooo?~ _ gaaxila
Tvali mixam da baliSisken wai-
Ro xeli yviriliT: `am Sah
abasma xo gaatraka saqme, xmalo,
ar mimtyunoo~ da fexze wamox-
ta mterTan Sesarkineblad, mag-
ram mteri maincdamainc Tavis
saZinebelSi rom ver aRmoaCina,
dawva da xvrinva amouSva.
dResac asea kaxeTSi, miuxe-
davad Tavs damtydari aTasi
`nacionaluri~ Wirisa, buneb-
rivi kataklizmebisa da aoxre-
bul-gaxriokebuli yofisa,
`mixa~ mters anu maincdamainc
garedan mosul dampyrobel
Sah abass, xilulad rom ver
xedavs, mSvidad sZinavs da ama-
sobaSi samSoblo uverandeba!
metic, `mixas~, imitom rom gu-
lalalia, imitom rom `Sinau-
ri~ dampyrobeli ver warmoud-
genia, imitom, rom sakuTar
ezo-mamulSi TavCarguli ebrZ-
vis miwas da sarCo-sabadeblis-
Tvis mudmivad Sromobs, SesaZ-
loa, arc adardebdes globa-
luri kataklizmebi, magram _
odes yofila kaxelebi, mebr-
Zolebi da amayi kaxelebi ase
TavCaqindruli da ase damcire-
bulebi xmas rom ar iRebdnen
da sakuTar naWuWSi iketebod-
nen Slegi `mefis~ Semxedvare?!
sityva `Slu~ _ ka-xeTSi giJs, cets, su-lels, da caltvinaWkuamxiaruls niSnavsda vis vgulisxmob amSemTxvevaSi, adviligasagebia, ara?
ar vici, risi bralia, mag-
ram am bolo 20 wlis ganmav-
lobaSi kaxelebi maincdamainc
ver daikvexnian politikuri
aqtivobiT, gnebavT, aqcia, _ ma-
nifestaciebze siaruliT da
gnebavT saarCevno cieb-cxele-
bisas, es SesaZloa, imis bra-
lic aris, rom kaxelebi, zoga-
dad, dinji, momTmeni, mofiqra-
li xalxia da `gasci, Tqveni
dedac~ _ is Tqma urCevniaT,
umravles SemTxvevaSi, magram
maTma siCumem, maTma TviTnebo-
bam da zogjer Tavis motyue-
bis mdgomareobam, amasobaSi
mTeli kaxeTi monebad rom aq-
cia, ra hqvia amas?
mec kaxeli, ufro sworad
ki qiziyeli, ubatono kuTxis
Svili var, mixaaa! me Tu ar me-
Sinia, me Tu ar vuqindrav Tavs
saakaSvil-merabiSvil-adeiSvi-
lebs, Sen ra dagemarTa da ra-
tom iTmen amdens?
ageee, Senma siCumemra damarTa RvTism-Sobel mariams msxal-gorSi, xedam? sisxliscremlebiT atirdada gonze mainc ver mo-giyvana! vazis samamu-le rqa gadagiWraRmerTma. Cemi sisx-lis Rirsi ara xaro,mainc Cumada xar?! mi-gilew-mogilewa ze-daSe, bani, Weri, saqo-neli, sarCo ar dagi-tova da arc hkiTxu-lob, ratom gagimetaase? imitom gagimeta,rom ilias yvarelSida erekles TelavSi,taxti eSmaks daudgida Seni siCumiT ukmevgundruks mis xangrZ-livobas, gaige?
aba, daakvirdiT kaxelebo,
rodis mere gangirisxdaT ufa-
li ase?
aseTi setyva, aseTi qariS-
xali, aseTi wyaldidobebi gax-
sovT odesme?
mTeli Cemi bavSvoba mesmo-
da aRrialebuli xevis xma la-
godexSi, magram erTi metriT
ar gadmosula mdinare arc
gzaze da arc vinmes ezoSi.
setyvac minaxavs da qaric, mag-
ram qariSxali da isic mTebiT
garSemortymul kaxeTSi, ara-
sodes msmenia. cidan wamosul
yinvis lodebze xom saerTod
zedmetia saubari da isic iv-
lissa da agvistos dasawyisSi!
maxsovs, rTvelis win, setyva
Tu wamoayrida, bebiaCemi maro,
sacers gaitanda gareT: `ase
gaceri, ase gaceri da wvimad
aqcieo~ _ exveweboda RmerTs
da Tqven warmoidgineT, ramde-
nime wuTSi setyvac klebulob-
da, wvimad iqceoda da Wirna-
xulsac arafers uSavebda. mag-
ram aq es ki ar aris mTavari,
mTavari isaa, rom stiqiasTan
brZolaSi, rwmena iyo mTavari
da dRes ki kaxelebis umrav-
lesobis rwmenac, RmerTic da
iesoc _ saakaSvilTan aqvT ga-
igivebuli, rac araTu mkrexe-
loba, aramed yvela Wiris sa-
Tavea, gamigeT?
ro dalayunobs mand da
_ `ui, miSa Sen ki genac-valeo~ _ eubnebiT, ma-rTla sul gamoSl-uvdiT, Tu raSia saq-me?
iqneb dagaviwydaT, rodis
mere dagerxaT magrad? `nwu,
nwu, miwaa mosaxnavi, 30 lari-
an vauCerebs dagirigebTo, ge-
yofaT sawvavSio~_ roca giTx-
raT Tqvenma miSam, ratom ar
miubrundiT da ratom ar
uTxariT, rom 30 lariT verc
miwas moxnavT da verc mtris
dedas mot...vT? anda, ratom
ver gaubedeT, geTqvaT isic,
rom mezobel azerbaijanamde,
e.i. 50-60 kilometrSi `mazu-
Ti~ Calisfrad SeiZleba geyi-
daT, magram misi `nac.tamoJni-
kebi~ gadmotanis nebas ar gaZ-
levdnen da Tu mainc moisur-
vebdiT gadmotanas, garTmevd-
nen da Rvridnen?
anda, mTelma kaxeTma ro
icodiT, petre ciskariSvilis
biznesis ambavi da isic, rom
icodiT _ azerbaijanSi iafad
nayidi benzin-mazuTiT, mis biz-
ness rom azaralebdiT, ratom
ver amoiReT xma da ratom ar
SesCivleT Tqvens miSas maSin,
roca didi zarzeimiT daiare-
boda Tqvensas?
lagodexSi, mdinare alaz-
nis pirze, Wiauris tye rom
gagikafaT ciskariSvil-adeiS-
vilma, sul muxis, wiflis,
wablisa da cacxvis xeebi rom
gadagiWraT morebad da ucxoe-
Tis gzas rom gauyenes, ratom
ar iRebdiT xmas?
tyesa da RreSi, mTasa da
barSi, Sinagan saqmeTa saminis-
tros brakonierebi, irems,
Rors, jixvs, kakabsa Tu xox-
bebs erTianad rom anadgurebd-
nen, ratom ucqerdiT Soridan
da sdumdiT?
mere es gaCexili tyeebi
alazanma rom datbora da sa-
erTod daaWaoba iqauroba, yve-
la jerze rom diddeboda da
mihqonda Tqveni saxnav-saTese-
bi, ratom ver bedavdiT imis
Tqmas, rom _ am yvelafris mi-
zezi, saakaSvili da misi gu-
bernatorebi iyvnen da ara adi-
debuli alazani, romelic
sul moedineboda kaxeTSi?
kacooo, riT verSeigneT, rom yvarel-Si, gurjaanSi, lago-dexSi, Telavsa da ax-metaSi tyeebis Cexvamgamoiwvia es ubedure-bebi, `amaTi~ mucle-bis gaxeTqvam imsxver-pla sofelic, qala-qic da tyec?
gaxsovT, datborili Wale-
bidan, moWrili xeebisgan dar-
Cenili morebis gamotanis uf-
lebasac rom ar gaZlevdnen?
isic gaixseneT, `SeSis bi-
leTebs~ rodis girigeben, no-
embris bolos, xom? noemberSi,
talaxsa da wvimaSi, SuSis ty-
idan gamotana rogoria, ha? e.i.
ra gamodis?
es Tqveni `xelisufleba~
Tan gexmarebaT da Tan ara,
xom?
axla es tyeebic rom viRac
gadamTielebze gayida, maS, ra
fexebi unda SeukeToT `feCeb-
Si~ wels?
kargi, gaziT gaTbebiT, mag-
ram arc samsaxuri, arc miwi-
dan Semosavali da arc arafe-
ri xom ar gagaCniaT, kaxelebo,
azerbaijanul `sokars~ fuls
riT gadauxdiT? riT iyidiT
SeSas, romelic ukve dRes
600-700 lari Rirs? adre
Rvino-aryiT mainc iqarvebdiT
dards, magram axla Rvinoc
rom aRara gaqvT, `zavodobebi~
rom aRar geqnebaT ori-sami we-
liwadi, ra geSvelebaT?
me getyviT rac geSvelebaT
_ male yvarelSi, rTvelSi Ta-
vis mamulSi, miSa Roris mwva-
debs rom daatrialebs, sawna-
xelidan da aryis qvabidan gad-
mosul Rvino-arays rom gadah-
kravs, Soridan uyureT nerwy-
vmoreulebma da erTxmad Se-
mosZaxeT: `miSa, Sen ki genacva-
le, gavla- gamovlaSiao!~
vidre miSas dakrulze buq-
naobT da gubernator RviniaS-
vilis Tvalebis brialis geSi-
niaT, ver xedavT, rom kaxele-
bis deda-taZar alaverdsac
wyali miadga Ziris gamosaTx-
relad?
ver xedavT, rom erekles
Telavi erTianad moiTxara da
daingra?
ratom? ratom da kidev er-
Txel gimeorebT:
eSmaks scemT Tay-vans da misi taxtigidgaT Suagul kaxeT-Si, kerZod ki yvarel-Si _ saakaSvilis ad-gil-mamulSi,
xolo `miSa gviyvarxar~, am
sityvebiT aZlierebT satanas
da isic yoveli aseTi SeZaxi-
lis Semdeg, kiskisiT gpasu-
xobT: `ara, es me miyvarxarT
da Zalian meamayebiT~-o.
kaxelebo! Sah abasi xmliT
modioda Cvenze da ver gvimor-
Cilebda! saqarTveloSi Semo-
suli yvela dampyrobeli,
Tqveni xmlebis msxverpli xde-
boda da saqarTvelos fari,
aki, amitomac giwodaT xalxma!
magram,
dRes xom xedavTrogor motrialdaazri? `kaxelebi mTav-robaSi TiTqmis argvyavs, ubralod isi-ni karieristebi ararian da imitom~ _ Ca-ikiskisa Sluim stiqi-
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~
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kaxelebo, Tqven sul xom argamoSluvdiT, Sah abass kaxeTSiTqveni xeliT rom udgamT taxts?
9saerTo gazeTi#37 (221), 29.VIII-4.IX, 2012 w.
idan ramdenime dReSi, roca `xalxis da-saxmareblad~ Caifrina ramdenime saaTi.es fraza ki, Cveneburad, e.i. kaxuradiciT ras niSnavda? kaxelebi mTavrobaSimosasvlelad ar ibrZvian, imitom, romgamoy...bulebi arian da qveynis bedicy...ze hkidiao, gaigeT?
arada, amas ro is geubnebaT, visac es qveyana mar-
Tla erT adgilze hkidia, visTvisac RmerTi, eklesia
da ieso, mxolod winasaarCevno lazRandarobaa, visT-
visac kaxelebis mier sisxliT morwyuli mTa da ve-
li mxolod `warsulis bneli gadmonaSTia~ da visT-
visac zogadad qarTuli eTnosi mxolod saarCevno
xmebia _ ar unda gadmoiRo fexebiT?
ras SescicinebT pirSi da ratom gibrundebaT az-
ri misi wasvlisTanave, roca ambobT: amis dedac
mov...nT, magram Tavs zemoT Zala ara gvaqvso?
jooo! kaxeli da egeTi orproWoba? Saigne da da-
imaxsovre, Tavs zemoT RmerTia, dabla kidev is miwa,
romelic SenisTanebs ki ar dautovebiaT, aramed er-
TpirSekrulma mebaxtrionelebma dagitoves da azrze
modi, ra?
kargiT, aiReT is 1500-1200 da 500 lari, ianvri-
dan Tu dascaldaT, 1000 lariani vauCeric gamaarT-
viT, magram mere? mere xom sul Tqveni kisridan ama-
iReben zarals? age, biZinam 80 milioni CaujibaT,
xalxs Sesabamisi daxmareba gauwieTo, magram dainaxeT,
sad wavida es fuli? sad wavida da Sluis biWebis
jibeebSi, rogorc `damsaxurebuli premiebi~, kaxele-
bisaTvis gaweuli samsaxuris gamo.
amis Semdeg, kidev gikvirT, aTasi ubedureba ratom
dagatexaT RmerTma Tavs?
mTel saqarTveloSi imdeni eklesia da imdeni ci-
xe-koSki arsad ar aris, ramdenic kaxeTSia da amiT,
iciT, ra minda giTxraT?
eSmaks maTraxi droze gadahkariT daqveyanaze ifiqreT, Torem `kriSaaxdili~saakaSvili verc Sifers da verc kramitsver dagixuravT xarisxianad, verc gzebsdagigebT da verc `samuSao adgilebs~mogiZebniT, Tavisi `dasaqmebis~ saminis-troTi!
ratom? ratom da imitom, rom mamali viria da
rogorc CvenSi ityvian xolme, `mamali viri da ma-
keee?~ ai, egrea magis saqme da imitom, gaigeeT?
Zvirfaso kaxelebo! Cven odiTganve `Cakrulos~ da
ganieri `mravalJamieris~ momRerali kuTxe varT!
odiTganve miwasTan da dampyrobelTan meomari kuTxe
varT da dRes, roca viRacam eWvqveS daayena Cveni sab-
rZolo SesaZlebloba `hkaT~ magaT, rame ro ar See-
SaloT da sul Tav-pirze daalewo is bani, rogorc
Tavis droze muxran batons daalewes gmirma da amay-
ma kaxelebma!
ase Tu ar izamT, verc xils dadgamT godriT,
verc dekeuls gazrdiT da verc kalos galewavT ya-
nebSi!
da erTic... Sah abasi ukve didi xania ka-xeTSi daboginobs da erTianad aoxrebsmandaurobas! dRes mas sxva saxeli hqvia,sxvanairi iaraRi upyria xelT da cxenismagivrad `vertaliotiT~ dahqris Tqve-ni baR-venaxebis Tavze! ara gjeraT? kar-gi maSin, Tu Cemi ar gjeraT, aixedeT ze-viT, gaixedeT gardigardmo da ueWveladdainaxavT...
irine gogosaSvili
_ saqarTvelo aris Tu ara ukeTesi qve-
yana, vidre rva wlis winaT iyo? _ am
kiTxvas, rogorc ritorikul kiTxvas ise
svamen xan saakaSvili, xan ugulava, xan me-
rabiSvili, Tumca kiTxvis ritorikuli pa-
Tosis miuxedavad, guli ar uTmenT da pa-
suxsac TviTon moayoleben xolme: _ miu-
xedavad imisa, rom jer kidev bevri ram
aris gasakeTebeli, saqarTvelo dRes uke-
Tesi qveyanaa, vidre rva wlis winaT iyoo.
imedi unda gagicruoT, pativcemulo
nacionalebo _ saqarTvelo dRes ukeTesi
ki ara gacilebiT uaresi qveyanaa rva wlis
winandel saqarTvelosTan SedarebiT.
ar gjeraT? axlave Sevecdebi dagaje-
roT...
rva wlis winaT saqarTveloSi mxo-
lod 5 000-mde patimari iyo, dRes es
ricxvi 23 000-s aRwevs.
rva wlis winaT e.w. siRaribis
zRvars qvemoT mcxovreb adamianTa ricxvi
300 000-s ar aRemateboda, dRes qarTvel
proletarTa raodenoba milionamde gai-
zarda.
rva wlis winaT afxazeTi da e.w.
samxreT oseTi separatistul regionebad
iwodeboda, dRes orives damoukidebeli,
suverenuli saxelmwifo hqvia.
rva wlis winaT cocxlebi iyvnen is
axalgazrdebi, romlebic 2008 wlis ag-
vistos omSi daiRupnen.
rva wlis winaT afxazeTidan dev-
nilTa armias samaCablodan devnilebi dae-
matnen da saqarTveloSi devnilTa axali
`getoebi~ gaCnda.
rva wlis winaT cocxlebi iyvnen
axalgazrdebi, romlebic am xelisuflebam
quCebSi upatrono ZaRlebiviT daxoca.
rva wlis winaT jer kidev ar iyo
2007 wlis noemberi, 2011 wlis sisxlia-
ni 26 maisi da sxva avadsaxsenebeli Tari-
Rebi, roca xelisufleba sakuTar xalxs
gaugonari sisastikiT uswordeboda.
rva wlis winaT saqarTvelos mo-
saxleobis garkveul nawilSi jer kidev
cocxlobda imedi, rom `vardebis revolu-
ciiT~ mosuli axalgazrda xelisufleba
aRadgenda teritoriul mTlianobas, aR-
mofxvrida umuSevrobas da siRatakes, Seq-
mnida axal samuSao adgilebs.
sul male es imedi mokvda, masTan er-
Tad mokvda telekompania `imedi~ da misi
damfuZnebeli badri patarkaciSvili.
rva wlis winaT naklebi iyo SiSi
da gacilebiT meti iyo demokratia.
rva wlis winaT arsebobda sasamar-
Tlo da arsebobdnen mosamarTleebi dRes
arc sasamarTloa da arc mosamarTleebi _
isini prokurorebis nebis aRmsrulebel
Tojinebad iqcnen.
rva wlis winaT arsebobda konsti-
tucia, rogorc qarTuli saxelmwifos
yvelaze mTavari da wmidaTawminda doku-
menti. dRes es dokumenti gaupatiurebuli
da daCexilia.
rva wlis winaT saqarTvelo imiTac
iyo ukeTesi qveyana, rom Tqven, `naciona-
lebi~ Raribebi iyaviT, dRes ki miliarde-
bi iSoveT da am miliardebiT cdilobT Za-
lauflebis samudamod SenarCunebas...
ase rom rva wlis winandeli saqarTve-
lo gacilebiT ukeTesi qveyana iyo, vidre
rva wlis Semdgomdroindeli saqarTveloa.
giorgi gamezardaSvili
saqarTvelo dRes gacilebiT uaresi
qveyanaa, vidre rva wlis winaT iyo
rva wlis winaT da rva wlis Semdeg
mixeil saakaSvili
kaxeTSi
10 saerTo gazeTi #37 (221), 29.VIII-4.IX, 2012 w.
`̀saerTo gazeTs~ esaubreba
iuristi koba kapanaZe
_ batono koba, marTalia,
saprezidento arCevnebamde jer
kidev droa, magram yvela vxe-
davT, mixeil saakaSvili daCqa-
rebuli tempebiT `aSenebs~ qala-
qebs, aaxlebs taZrebs... mas
surs, istoriaSi meore `aRmaSe-
neblis~ saxeliT Sevides.
_ gacveTili gaxda ukve ba-
toni saakaSvilis frazebi, rom
man aaSena Tbilisi, siRnaRi, an
Tundac baTumi. Cven yvelam kar-
gad viciT, vin ra aaSena, visi
fuliT da ris fasad keTdeboda
es yvelaferi wlebis ganmavlo-
baSi. viciT, rom prezidents am
procesSi umeteswilad mxolod
lentis gamWrelis funqcia hqo-
nda. Tundac ganaxlebuli baTu-
mi, romelic mec Zalian momwons,
vaRiaroT, rom ar iZleva aRmSe-
neblobaze yelmoRerebuli saub-
ris saSualebas.
minda mivmarTo mixe-il saakaSvils: batonoprezidento, roca aRm-Seneblobaze saubr-obT, ar dagaviwydeT,rom Tqven, Tqveni ini-ciativiTa da gauazre-beli politikiT mxo-lod werovani da go-rovani `aaSeneT~ da esgaxlavT Tqveni mmarT-velobis erTgvari sim-boloc. Tqveni prezi-dentobisa da mxedarT-
mTavrobis logikuridagvirgvineba. samwu-xaroa, magram Tqveniepoqis saqarTveloaucileblad Seva is-toriaSi ara rogorcTamarisa da daviTisepoqa, rogorc es TqvenTqvensave iluziebSigaqvT warmodgenili,aramed, rogorc wero-vanisa da gorovanis sa-qarTvelo.
meore mxriv, marTla ar mes-
mis, ratom ar reagirebs ufro
mwvaved qarTuli sazogadoeba
qsenofobiur gancxadebebze. ra-
tom ewinaaRmdegebian sxvadasxva
aRmsareblobis sakulto nagebo-
bebis aSenebas. am qveyanaSi xom
imdeni sinagoga, meCeTi da marT-
lmadidebluri eklesia unda
aigos, ramdenis saWiroeba da Se-
saZlebloba iqneba.
prezidents Zalian cota
dro darCa, magram miuxedavad
amisa, mas jer kidev aqvs SesaZ-
lebloba, bolo gadawyvetileba
mainc miiRos iseTi, rom saqarT-
velos saxelmwifos ganviTare-
bis Sansi sabolood ar mouspos.
mxolod misi rogorc xelisuf-
lebidan, aseve Zalauflebidan
wasvla iqneba SesaZlebloba sa-
qarTvelos ukeTesi momavlisT-
vis.
_ saakaSvilma mmarTvelobis
vadis amowurvisTanave unda da-
tovos prezidentis posti _
ase fiqrobs, savaraudod, saqar-
Tvelos mosaxleobis naxevarze
meti. Tumca, naklebad SesaZle-
belia, magram mainc masac undo-
des wasvla. Tqveni azriT, iqneb
aqvs valdebulebebi amerikasTan,
romlis xelSewyobiT gaprezi-
dentebuladac miiCnevs zogier-
Ti, an ruseTTan an sxva rome-
lime politikur wresTan
ucxoeTSi?
_ Zalian siRrmiseul rameebs
mekiTxebiT.
jer erTi, savalaloa da
tragedia, saqarTvelos mosaxle-
obis garkveuli nawili mainc Tu
fiqrobs, rom qveynis prezi-
dents, SesaZloa, sxvebis winaSe
ufro meti valdebulebebi hqon-
des, vidre sakuTari amomrCevle-
bis mimarT.
meorec, ara mgonia, miT ume-
tes, amerikaSi, garkveuli lo-
bisturi wreebis garda vinme ij-
des da tvins icxelebdes imaze
fiqriT, rogor datovon saakaS-
vili saqarTvelos xelisufle-
baSi.
ai, sul sxvaa ruseTis sa-
kiTxi. bolo dros yvela vxe-
davT, rom miuxedavad ucenzuro
politikuri ritorikisa, TiT-
qos garkveuli Zvrebi SeiniSneba
rusul-qarTul saxelisuflebo
urTierTobebSi. Tundac is ga-
vixsenoT, 2008 wlis ambebTan
dakavSirebiT putinma axlaxan ra
gancxadeba gaakeTa. amiT xom man,
praqtikulad, saakaSvilis momx-
reebs misi gancxadebis interp-
retaciis saSualeba misca. am
logikiT, Tuki qveynis SigniT
politikuri oponentebi saakaS-
vils adanaSaulebdnen cxinvalSi
sabrZolo moqmedebebis dawyeba-
Si da xelisufleba amas realur
kontrarguments ver upirispi-
rebda, ruseTis prezidentis am
e.w. „aRiarebiT“ es Tema TiTqos-
da daixura.
erTi Sexed-viT, gamodis,batonma pu-tinma am gan-cxadebiT ba-ton saakaSvi-ls bolo sa-maSvelo rgo-li gadmoug-do misive op-o n e n t e b i skritikisganTavis dasaca-vad.
man es gancxadeba xom marT-
lacda saakaSvilisTvis yvelaze
saWiro, metad kritikul dros,
ise gaakeTa, rom erTi SexedviT
ruseTis xelisuflebas amis po-
litikuri saWiroeba arc hqo-
nia. amitomac qmnis es gancxade-
ba mometebuli eWvebis safuZ-
vels.
_ anu saakaSvili da putini
SeTanxmebulad moqmedeben?
_ saqme isaa, rom aucilebe-
li araa adamianTan raime saxis
kontaqti iqonio, masTan urTi-
erTsasargeblo politikur Ta-
maSebSi rom Sexvide da raime
tipis rCevebi misce. savaraudod,
am tipis urTierTobis iluzias
uqmnis axla batoni putini pre-
zident saakaSvils. iqneb ruse-
Tis imediT gabedos da xelisuf-
lebaSi darCes. magram saakaSvi-
li araa iseTi kaci politikuri
TamaSebis konstitucia ar esmo-
des. wesiT, man kargad unda
uwyodes, rom Tu igi xelisuf-
lebis mSvidobian gadacemas ar
moaxdens, ris Sesaxebac batonma
obamam pirdapir da Riad ga-
nacxada misive TandaswrebiT, ar-
Cevnebis damTavrebidan meore
dResve araTu saqarTvelos me-
gobrebs, TviT batoni saakaSvi-
lis mcirericxovan lobisteb-
sac, Tundac dasavleTSi, aRar
eqnebaT aranairi argumenti, rom
formalurad mainc isaubron
qarTul demokratiaze.
es, Tavis mxriv, niS-navs imas, rom dasavle-Tisa da civilizebulisamyarosgan zurgSeq-ceuli saqarTvelo,ruseTis mZlavri sam-xedro-politikuri ma-nqanis pirispir mar-todmarto aRmoCnde-ba.
es baton putins, romelmac
bolo kvlevebiT kidev ufro da-
karga Sida reitingi, saSualebas
miscems saqarTveloze axali ga-
marjvebis gziT meore sunTqva
gaixsnas da saakaSvils Seusru-
los danapirebi erTi adgiliT
dakidebis Sesaxeb. mokled rom
vTqvaT, Tu saqarTvelom batoni
saakaSvilis xelisuflebaSi da-
rCena ar dauSva da baton pu-
tins, romelsac haeriviT sWir-
deba mtris xati, rogorc yu-
radRebis gadasatanad, aseve axa-
li gamarjvebis misaRwevad, amis
saSualeba ar misca. maSin ruse-
Tis xelisufleba veRar moaxer-
xebs samxedro konfliqtis mis
sazRvrebs gareT gatanas, ro-
gorc es 2008-Si moxda da Cven
didi albaTobiT samSvidobos ga-
valT.
magram davuSvaT Secdomis
albaTobac. axlaxan vTqviT, rom
saakaSvils, SesaZloa, putini am
tipis gancxadebebiT, urTierTsa-
sargeblo politikuri TamaSis
iluzias uqmnides da saqarTve-
los prezidentma ar gaiTvalis-
winos sxva argumentebi, daije-
ros is, rom TiTqos Ceni mezo-
beli qveynis xelisufals dasav-
leTTan saubrisas damatebiT ar-
gumentad sWirdebodes misi xe-
lisuflebaSi darCena – martivi
logikiT: ratomaa xelisufleba-
Si dabrunebuli putini arade-
mokrati da avtoritari, maSin,
roca xelisuflebaSi darCenili
„agresori“ saakaSvili jer ki-
dev demokratiis Suqurad iTv-
leba?! Sesabamisad, Tu prezi-
denti saakaSvili oTxi wlis
winandel agvistos gakveTilebs
ar gaiTvaliswinebs, kargad ar
gaixsenebs, Tu ras eubnebodnen
amerikelebi, ar gaiTavisebs imas,
rom putini, Tundac porovnuli
Tvisebebidan gamomdinare, masTan
ara urTierTsasargeblo, aramed
mxolod calmxrivad sasargeblo
politikur TamaSebSi Seva, ar
gaiTvaliswinebs ruseTis prezi-
dentis wina profesias da amas
argumentad ar CaTvlis, Tu isev
wamoegeba provokacias, swored
es iqneba misi mxridan daSvebu-
li im tipis strategiuli Sec-
doma, romelic, rbilad rom
vTqvaT, misi karieris katast-
rofulad dasrulebas ganapiro-
bebs.
amitomac Cvens qve-yanas sxva arCevani araaqvs. an xdeba xelisuf-lebis mSvidobianadgadabareba da saqarT-velos mimarT grZel-deba dasavluri mxar-daWera, an daaxloe-
biT viTardeba Cvensmier zemoTnaxsenebiscenari, rac ara mxo-lod prezident saa-kaSvilisTvis iqnebakatastrofuli, ara-med daasrulebs qar-Tul saxelmwifoebri-obas.
am yvelafris Semdeg „nuras
ukacravad“ xelisuflebas aravis
davuTmobo, rac ufro xmamaRla
iyvirebs batoni saakaSvili, es
mis naTqvams ufro met damaje-
reblobas SesZens, viTom?! aqvs
mas sxva arCevani?! ra Tqma unda,
ara, da es man SesaniSnavad icis.
amitomac ukve saxeze gvaqvs xe-
lisuflebis gadacemis TiTqmis
yvela simptomi, Tu es misi mxri-
dan ganxorcielebuli strategi-
uli simulacia ar gaxlavT. Tu
es ase ar aris, ratom Sevida
prezidenti da mmarTveli poli-
tikuri gundi Tavidanve „qar-
Tul ocnebasTan“ im tipis po-
litikur orTabrZolaSi, rome-
lic imTaviTve naTeli iyo, rom
ara mxolod amomrCevlebSi ar
gazrdida “nacionaluri moZrao-
bis“ mimarT ndobas, aramed civi-
lizebuli da progresuli dasav-
leTis guliswyromasac aucileb-
lad gamoiwvevda. es xom apriori
cnobili unda yofiliyo maTTvis.
ar SeeZloT umtkivneulo poli-
tikuri svlebiTa da samarTlia-
ni gzebiT daebalansebinaT koa-
licia?! –ra Tqma unda, SeeZloT!
amisTvis mxolod farTod gaxe-
lili Tvalebi iyo saWiro da
ara politikuri urTierTobebis
piradSi gadatana. maSin ratom
ar gaakeTes es? amitomac vambob,
prezidentis gancxadebebis miuxe-
davad, saxezea xelisuflebis ga-
dabarebis TiTqmis yvela niSani.
Sesabamisad, mmarTveli partiisa
da xelisuflebis warmomadgenel
Cems Tanamoqalaqeebs ki vurCev:
Tu politikur momavalze ar
ifiqreben da gunds ar datove-
ben, maindamainc usamarTlo da
miT umetes ukanono brZanebebs
nu Seasruleben, Zalian male ka-
nonisa da marTlmsajulebis wi-
naSe martodmartoni, pirispir
rom ar aRmoCndnen.
roca faraonebs mar-
xaven, msaxurebsac
Tan Caayoleben xol-
me, es tradicia Zve-
li egviptidan modis
da ukeTesia, am ri-
tuals rac ufro
naklebi ubralo mok-
vdavi Seewireba.
_ e.i. Tqveni az-
riT, saakaSvils was-
vlis garda sxva ar-
Cevani ar aqvs?
_ ki, aqvs kidev
erTi arCevani _ mo-
emzados ara premie-
robisa da parlamen-
tis Tavmjdomareo-
bisTvis, aramed, ro-
gorc erTxel ukve
gamovTqviT eWvi amis
Sesaxeb, wavides aWa-
ris avtonomiuri
respublikis meTau-
rad. kargad davak-
virdeT, igi swore-
dac amisTvis xom ar emzadeba?!
raRa Tqma unda, im politikuri
ganlagebis pirobebSi, rac, sava-
raudod, momavalSi gvelodeba,
amis daSvebac ar SeiZleba. es,
daaxloebiT, igive iqneba, bavSvs
asanTi mivceT da saTamaSod Ti-
vis zvinTan marto davtovoT.
iranda kalandaZe
kargad daimaxsovros saakaSvilis garemocvam: roca faraons marxaven, msaxurebsac Tan Caayoleben xolme...
11#37 (221), 29.VIII-4.IX, 2012 w. saerTo gazeTi
vveessaauubbrreebbiiTT kkooaalliicciiaa `̀qqaarr-
TTuullii ooccnneebbiiss~~ wwaarrmmoommaaddggee-
nneellss,, qqaallbbaattoonn guguli ma-RraZes
__ qqaallbbaattoonnoo gguugguullii,, aarriiss
TTuu aarraa aarraaTTaannaabbaarrii ppiirroobbeebbii
wwiinnaassaaaarrCCeevvnnoodd,, xxeelliissuufflleebbaa-
ssaa ddaa ooppoozziicciiaass SSoorriiss??
_ naTlad Cans, rom winasa-
arCevno pirobebi sruliad
araTanabaria xelisuflebasa
da opozicias Soris, Tumca,
SegaxsenebT, rom opoziciaSi
vgulisxmob `qarTul ocnebas~
da ara romelime sxva fsevdo-
opoziciur partias, romelnic
saerTod ar Canan arCevnebamde,
xolo arCevnebis dros sokoe-
biviT amovlen xolme. me sul
mikvirs, ra finansebiT da ada-
mianuri resursebiT arseboben
isini wlidan wlamde, rodesac
Cvens `qalTa partias~, rom-
lis sapatio prezidentic me
dResac var da sakmaod mxar-
damWerebic gvyavs, arCevnebSi
monawileoba damoukideblad
gviZneldeboda yovelTvis. cxa-
dia, rom aseT e.w. `opozici-
ur~ partiebs `kvebavs~ xeli-
sufleba, romelic maT iyenebs
namdvili opoziciis winaaRm-
deg sxvadasxvagvarad. ZiriTa-
dad, maT avaleben namdvili
opoziciis lanZRvas. araTana-
bari pirobebi ar aris is, rom
`qarTuli ocnebis~ winaaRmdeg
saarCevno kodeqsSi Seitanes
cvlilebebi, kontrolis pala-
tis mier ukanono dajarimebe-
bi, gadaadgilebis SezRudva,
saofise Tu RonisZiebebisaTvis
farTobebis daqiravebis SeuZ-
lebloba, partiuli embleme-
bis damzadebaSi xelis SeSla,
mxardamWerebisa da wevrebis
daSineba-daWera da a.S. aTasg-
vari ukanono Tu usamarTlo
kanonebis gamoyeneba xdeba imi-
saTvis, rom `qarTul ocnebas~
moqmedebis saSualeba ar mie-
ces. Tumca mTeli es saxeli-
suflo qmedebani male fuWi
aRmoCndeba, radganac miuxeda-
vad winasaarCevno araTanabari
pirobebisa, `qarTuli ocnebis~
warmatebuli saarCevno svla
grZeldeba. arc imas aqvs seri-
ozuli mniSvneloba, ra nom-
riT miiRebs is arCevnebSi mo-
nawileobas, mTavari aris ga-
marjveba.
araTanabari pirobebisa da
saarCevno garemos SeqmnisaTvis
xelisuflebam gada-
keta ara marto iva-
niSvilis finansuri
wyaroebi, aramed Se-
ecada mTlianad da-
ebloka `qarTuli
ocnebis~ saarCevno
kampania imiT, rom
waarTva ufleba ri-
giT adamianebs Tavi-
si finansuri SesaZ-
leblobebis farg-
lebSi mxari daeWi-
raT maTTvis sasur-
veli politikuri
ZalisaTvis, rac de-
mokratiis anabanaa.
Tumca, xelisufleba
verafers uxerxebs `qarTuli
ocnebis~ mTavar kapitals _
xalxs.
ase, rom, xelisuflebis
mcdelobam, gadaeketaT finan-
suri resursi _ Sedegi jer
ver gamoiRo, rac Seexeba
`Taflis kveris~ gamoyenebas,
esec gaZneldeba maTTvis, rad-
ganac xelisuflebas aRar aqvs
amdeni finansuri resursi.
aRar ician rogor gaaRatakon
xalxi da waarTvan ukanaskneli
kapikebi. marto satransporto
jarimebiT wels xalxisgan
amoRebuli aqvT 40 milioni
lari! rTul mdgomareobaSia
jer kidev SemorCenili bizne-
si. marTalia, isini mxolod
xelisuflebis axloblebi ari-
an, magram maTac seriozuli
xarjebis gaweva uwevT im gaz-
rdili moTxovnilebebis dasak-
mayofileblad, rasac maT xe-
lisufleba sTxovs.
mogelaZis samsaxuri `nac-
moZraobis~ mxridan Cadenili
darRvevebisa Tu danaSaulis
mimarT _ brma da yrua!
yovelive zemoTqmulidan
gamomdinare, xelisufleba cd-
ilobs srulad da sruliad
ukanonod gamoiyenos yvela Se-
saZlebloba, raTa saarCevno
upiratesoba mis mxares iyos.
xelisuflebis mxares ar
aris mTavari _ simarTle!
dRes am simarTles gamouCnda
damcveli biZina ivaniSvilis
saxiT.
__ rraa ggaaZZlleevvTT iimmeeddss,, rraa
SSaannssii aaqqvvss `̀ooccnneebbaass~~??
_ `qarTuli ocnebis~ San-
sebi rom realuri ar iyos, am-
dens ki ar inerviulebda xe-
lisufleba? jer marto Sex-
vedrebze mosuli xalxi Cveni
gamarjvebis sawyisi safuZve-
lia. amas daumateT is xalxi,
vinc Sexvedrebze ver midis?
imaT xom `yelSi hyavT amosu-
li~ es xelisufleba, Tqveni
azriT, vis miscemen isini xmas?
yvela wina arCevnebze opo-
ziciis marcxis mTavari mizezi
iyo is, rom `nacmoZraoba~ yo-
velTvis axerxebda im 30 pro-
centi amomrCevlis saarCevno
yuTebTan moyvanas, romelic
misi momxre iyo, mosaxleobis
70 procentidan ki vinc xeli-
suflebis opozicia iyo, mxo-
lod 10 procenti midioda ar-
Cevnebze imitom, rom ar sje-
rodaT gamarjvebis. fiqrobd-
nen da arc Tu usafuZvlod,
rom xelisufleba mainc gaa-
yalbebda arCevnebs.
dRes `qarTul ocnebas~
srulad Seswevs imis Zala,
rom daicvas xalxis xmebi!
__ rrooggoorr ffiiqqrroobbTT,, rraammddeennii
pprroocceennttiiss aaRReebbaass SSeeZZlleebbss aarr-
CCeevvnneebbSSii `̀ooccnneebbaa~~??
_ `qarTuli ocneba~ SeZ-
lebs imas, rom movides umrav-
lesobiT, rom arsebulma xe-
lisuflebam waagos arCevnebi
da dasjerdes im mcire pro-
cents, rac SeiZleba moipovos
calkeuli saarCevno ubnebSi
im adamianebis xmebis xarjze,
romelic samkvdro sasicocx-
lod arian dakavSirebuli
`nacmoZraobasTan~? vimedovneb,
maT eyofaT goniereba, rom Se-
eguon Tavis marcxs, rameTu
xalxis nebas veravin ver
aRudgeba.
__ kkaacciittaaZZiiss `̀ggaabbeerriill~~ ssii-
eebbzzee rraass iittyyvviiTT?? vviiss ddaavvaallee-
bbaass aassrruulleebbss ssiieebbiiss ddaazzuussttee-
bbiiss kkoommiissiiaa??
_ kacitaZis komisias hqon-
da ormagi daniSnuleba: pirve-
li _ dasaCuqreba `axali me-
marjveneebisa~ im RalatisaT-
vis, rac maT Caidines opozici-
uri rvianis mimarT, roca axa-
li memarjveneebis mxridan sa-
erTo formatidan gamosvlam
misca SesaZlebloba xelisuf-
lebas gaeformebina xelSekru-
leba viTomda opoziciasTan sa-
arCevno garemos gaumjobesebis
Sesaxeb, ramac faqtobrivad, Za-
lian dagvaSora saarCevno ga-
remos realuri gaumjobesebi-
sagan da meorec, aseTi komisi-
is SeqmniT miawodes ucxoe-
lebs iluzia imisa, rom apire-
ben saarCevno siis gasworebas.
es yvelaferi gaTvlili
iyo mosaxleobis im nawilzec,
visac jer kidev gulubryvi-
lod sjeraT `axali memarjve-
neebis~ opozicionerobisa da
hqondaT imedi, rom komisia ra-
imes gaasworebda. jer is rad
Rirs, rom miuxedavad imisa,
rom saxelad erqvaT saxelmwi-
fo komisia, masSi muSaobis
msurveli usaTuod unda yofi-
liyo an gamxdariyo `axali me-
marjveneebis~ partiis wevri!
amomrCevelTa siebis dazus-
teba ar warmoadgens xelisuf-
lebisaTvis aranair siZneles,
rom maT gaaCndeT amisi neba!
maT aqvT yvela monacemi sxva-
dasxva dros arCevnebSi rea-
lurad monawileobisa, qveyni-
dan gasulebisa, gardacvlile-
bisa, sacxovrebeli adgilis
Secvlisa.
dRevandeli `gaberili sie-
bi~ aris Cveni xelisuflebis
da misi sateliti partiebisa-
Tvis arCevnebis gayalbebis yve-
laze didi saSualeba da am
Sanss isini xelidan ar gauS-
veben.
rac Seexeba `amomrCevelTa
ligisa~ da `qarTuli ocnebis~
kardakar programebs, isini
bevrad ufro zustia da sando.
amomrCevelTa aqtiurobis
SemTxvevaSi es dauzustebeli
siebi xelisuflebas raime
mniSvnelovani gayalbebis saSu-
alebas veRar miscems!
__ SSeeZZlleebbss TTuu aarraa iivvaanniiSSvvii-
llii iimmaass,, rroomm mmSSvviiddaadd mmoovviiddeess
xxeelliissuufflleebbaaSSii??
_ `qarTuli ocneba~ mxo-
lod da mxolod arCevnebis
gziT apirebs da moaxerxebs ki-
dec gamarjvebas. rac ufro bo-
lo fazaSi gadava yvelaferi da
`nacmoZraoba~ naTlad dainaxavs,
rom aRara aqvs mogebis Sansi,
miT ufro gamZafrdeba maTi
mxridan represiebi mosaxleobis
mimarT, magram SiSs xalxSi uk-
ve veRar danergaven, es dro uk-
ve wavida. jini amoSvebulia da
ukan veRar daabruneben.
Cven SevlebT arCevnebamde
mSvidad misvlas. yvela cdi-
lobs iyvnen mSvidebi da prin-
cipulebi.
saakaSvils wamoscda _ `am-
aT undaT arCevnebSi SemiTrio-
no~ _ sworedac rom `SeviT-
revT~ da movugebT kidec!
eTer kasreliSvili
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prezidentma mixeil saakaS-
vilma `nacionaluri moZrao-
bis~ baTumis maJoritarobis
kandidatad giorgi baramiZe da-
asaxela.
ratom maincdamainc barami-
Ze? imitom, rom baramiZes sa-
Sualo skola baTumSi daum-
Tavrebia; kidev imitomo, rom
politikaSi man momiyvanao; ki-
dev imitomo, rom afxazeTis
omis dros erTad vmonawileob-
diT tyveTa gacvlis procesSi
da iq davaxlovdiTo; kidev
imitom, rom Cemi pirveli naT-
loba misgan maqvs miRebuli da
es arasdros damaviwydebao...
orive personam, jobs, rac
dasamaxsovrebelia, is ar dai-
viwyos, dawyebuli imiT, rom
naTel-mironi arian; rom bara-
miZe da zurab Jvanias meuRle
saakaSvilis ufrosi Svilis
naTliebi arian, swored im zu-
rab Jvaniasi, romlis gardacva-
lebis realuri ambavi miCuma-
Tebulia da bevrs egona, rom
uaxloesi megobari, gia bara-
miZe raRac radikalur nabijebs
gadadgamda, magram...
radgan drois simciris ga-
mo gakiTxv-gamokiTxva ver mo-
vaswari, (rac movaswari,
mTlad damabnies, ra baTumio)
baTumis romeli skola daam-
Tavra `maradmwvane didubelad~
wodebulma baramiZem da inter-
nets gadavxede _ giorgi bara-
miZe daibada 1968 wlis 5 ian-
vars q. TbilisSi. daamTavra sa-
qarTvelos politeqnikuri ins-
titutSi qimiuri teqnologiis
fakulteti~... da grZeldeba.
ra akademiuri moswrebiT gamo-
irCeoda `gepeiSi~, amaze aRaraa
saubaria, magram romeli qala-
qis romel skolaSi an skoleb-
Si swavlobda pativcemuli ba-
ramiZe, arsadaa miTiTebuli.
jandabas, sadRac, romeli-
Rac skolas daamTavrebda, ko-
munistebi ise ar SeuSvebdnen
umaRles saswavlebelSi-meTqi
da davanebe Tavi, magram axla
is momxvda TvalSi, rom batoni
baramiZe 1989 wlidan `mwvane-
Ta moZraobis~ erT-erTi dama-
arsebeli yofila. mexsierebis
deficitia Tu sxva ram, aqaoda,
batoni Jvania gardacvlilia,
cocxlad darCenilebi ki qon-
Si curaven, xmas ar amoiRebe-
no? _ 1985 wels, universite-
tis damTavrebis Semdeg baton-
ma Jvaniam mecnierebis xel-
SewyobiT Camoayaliba ekologi-
uri asociacia, romlis baza-
zec 1988 wels Seiqmna moZra-
oba `saqarTvelos mwvaneebi~ da
mis xelmZRvanelad airCies zu-
rab Jvania, anu, sanam baramiZe
1989 wels am moZraobis `erT-
erTi damaarsebeli~ gaxdeboda,
moZraoba 1988 wels ukve daar-
sebuli iyo da xelmZRvanelic
hyavda...
baramiZe, Turme labrasTan
gamarTul brZolebSi iRebda
monawileobas _ ki-
dev erTxel vurCi-
oT baton barami-
Zes, rom mexsiere-
bas mouxmos, kar-
gad gaixsenos lab-
rasTan omi, isic,
rom tankTan bevrs
gadauria suraTi
da saerTod, romel
batalions daasaxe-
lebs, romlis me-
Tauric moyuCebu-
li ar hyavT an vi-
ris abanoSi, an su-
lac saiqioSi?
baramiZes, ro-
melsac baTumi mxo-
lod `Zveli intu-
ristiT~ Tu axsovs
isic bavSvobaSi,
risi imedi aqvs ar-
CevnebSi? (SeiZle-
ba, arasworad dav-
svi kiTxva, `risi
imedis~ nacvlad,
unda mekiTxa `visi
imedi~ da pasuxi
mzad iqneboda) imi-
si xom ara, rom aWaraSi sakma-
od gavrcelebuli gvaria bara-
miZe?
raimes gavrcelebaze Tu
midga saqme, aWaraSi is kadre-
bicaa gavrcelebuli, rogor
moawyo im dros Sss ministrma
gia baramiZem prezidentis ina-
uguraciis ori Tvis Tavze saC-
venebeli sadamsjelo farTo-
masStabiani specoperacia e.w
`svanuri dajgufebis~ winaRm-
deg, romelTa vinaobac
ojaxis wevrebiT Se-
moifargla: asakovani
evgeni afrasiZe, misi
meuRle dodo sidiani,
goCa da omex afrasi-
Zeebi, Smagi afrasiZe
meuRliTa da mcirew-
lovani SvilebiT, ro-
melTagan ufrosi 13
wlis iyo, umcrosi 3
wlis...
is kadrebicaa gav-
rcelebuli, sadac
Cans, rom afrasiZeebis
ojaxis winaaRmdeg Ca-
tarebul specoperaci-
aSi monawileobdnen:
Ss saministros gulu-
as saxelobis specda-
niSnulebis razmi, Ss
saministros Sinagani
jaris specrazmi, uS-
iSroebis saministros
antiteroristuli cent-
ris specrazmi, samegre-
lo-zemo svaneTis samxa-
reo policiis mTeli pi-
radi Semadgenloba da
amave dros specrazmi,
mTlianobaSi 1000-mde ni-
Rbiani, romelTa Seiara-
RebaSi iyo: avtomatebi,
yumbarmtyorcnebi, `muxe-
bi,~ da tanksawinaaRmdego
yumbarmtyorcnebi; speco-
peraciaSi monawileobdnen
agreTve: 12 vertmfre-
ni_Sveulmfreni, ameriku-
li `irokezebi~ da rusu-
li ÌÈÏ-8 _ aseTi Seia-
raReba afxazeTSi ar hqo-
niaT mxareebs...
giorgi afrasiZe, Smagi
afrasiZis Svili, rome-
lic specoperaciis dros
13 wlis iyo: _ me da ba-
buas erT oTaxSi gveZina,
gverdze oTaxSi Cemi biZebi iw-
vnen. meZina da babuam rom ga-
maRviZa, vertmfrenis xma gavi-
ge, rasac, daaxloebiT erT
wuTSi srolac mohyva, sroliT
Semovidnen, pirdapir saxls es-
rodnen. manamde isinic babuam
gaaRviZa. ucbad CavicviT. babu-
am Tqva, bavSvi gaiyvaneT saxli-
dano da TviTon xelebaweuli
gavida aivanze, yviroda, ar is-
roloT, bavSvia saxlSi, gneb-
debiT, gnebdebiTo, am dros ba-
buas ukve tyvia moxvda da da-
eca. goCam damiZaxa, Semodi sax-
lSio da mec Sevirbine. daax-
loebiT xuTi wuTi isrodnen
gabmiT. cota rom SeCerda, go-
Cam miTxra mezobelTan gadagiy-
vano da xeli momkida. Cvens ze-
moT aris koSki, sadac spec-
razmelebi da snaiperebi iyvnen
da iqidan daiwyes srola. Cven
rom gavrbodiT, xis boZebia da
imas xvdeboda, erTma tyviam
SarvalSi gamiara. biZaCemma me-
zobelTan damtova da ukan gab-
runda babuas saxlSi, egeba
cocxali iyos da gadarCeso.
sadac biZiam Semiyvana, im sax-
lsac srola dauwyes da im me-
zobelma meore mezobelTan ga-
damiyvana da iqidan vuyureb-
diT, ra xdeboda. erTi yumbara
esroles babuas saxls da wa-
mebSi cecxli moekida mTel
saxls... srolebi rom damTavr-
da, biZaCemi ukve gardacvlili
iyo... mTel ojaxs aginebdnen,
eg gindodaT da eg gagikeTeT,
Tqveni dedao... erTi mezobeli
Seepasuxa da fexebSi esro-
les... saxlSi rom Sevedi, bebia
da deda cudad iyvnen. yvelafe-
ri gadmoyrili hqondaT specna-
zelebs da bavSvebs eubnebod-
nen, iaraRi sad gaqvT damalu-
lio. (bavSvebis asaki: 9, 7 da
3 wlis)`Skafebi~ gadmoyares,
daamtvries, dalewes yvelafe-
ri, magram iaraRs ras ipovid-
nen, araferi ar iyo saxlSi...
biZaCemi, goCa, daWrili iyo,
or specnazels xeli hqonda
mokidebuli da miaTrevdnen,
TviTon veRar dadioda, ukan
mamaCemi, Smagi miyavdaT, magram
is SedarebiT ukeT gamoiyure-
boda, Tavisi fexiT dadioda,
Casves vertmfrenSi da gafrin-
dnen. meore biZa, omexi, ukve
gardacvlili iyo da saxlis
win, orRobeSi egdo sisxlis
gubeSi, araferi ar efara zed.
ezoSi rom Sevdiodi, micvale-
bulTan samni idgnen da lapa-
rakobdnen, neta exla cxeli
svanuri kubdarebi gvaWa-
mao... moTxoviT, qalebs
moTxoves mere, mezoblis
qalebs, (televiziiT naC-
veneb kadrebSi kubdaris
`mTxovneli~ gia baramiZe-
a) ai, amxela saqme gavake-
TeT, es banditebi mogaSo-
reT da kubdarebi mainc
gamogvicxveTo. erTma maT-
ganma civad upasuxa,
mkvdari kaci win gigdiaT
da Tqven kubdarebs
gvTxovTo?~
omex afrasiZe, Smagi
afrasiZis Svili (im dros
9 wlis iyo): _ `rom ga-
viRviZe, ukve ismoda ver-
tmfrenis da srolis xma.
mamam sawolis qveS Seg-
viyvana: me, Cemi erTi Zma,
Cemi da da dedaCemi. mere
bebia Camovida da isic sa-
wolis qveS Semoiyvana ma-
mam. mamaCemi gverdze
oTaxSi dadioda, rasac
naxulobda zed gvafareb-
da. srolis xma ismoda,
didi afeTqebis xmac... sa-
wolis qveS viyaviT, ar
daminaxia, xma gavige, rom
Semovidnen bebiam hkiTxa,
vin momikaliTo. qmari da
Svili mogikaliT da Svi-
li dagiWeriTo... bebia da
deda ver gamovidnen, cu-
dad iyvnen... me romel sa-
wolzec meZina, sul
dacxriluli iyo... rom
gamovedi, biZaCemi davinaxe
orRobeSi dagdebuli da
sami jariskaci edga Tav-
ze. biZaCems yelze ekeTa
oqros jaWvebi, erTma
mkerdze daado fexi da
moaglija is oqroebi, me-
re erTma moixsna avtoma-
ti, mokle iyo, gulze da-
ades da suraTebi gadauRes, me-
re aiRes isev avtomati. me da
mezoblis bavSvebi viyaviT. ga-
diT iqiTo da Cven cota gavi-
wieT, magram vuyurebdiT mainc.
mezoblis qalebi eubnebodnen
micvalebuli mogveciTo, magram
axlos ar uSvebdnen aravis.
orRobeSi talaxiani wyali mo-
dioda da imaSi egdo biZaCemi...
romelmac moglija jaWvebi,
imas niRabi ekeTa, im ors _
ara.~
ecerSi, afrasiZeebis ojax-
ze Catarebuli specoperaciis
kvaldakval, sainformacio sa-
Sualebebma gvamcnes, rom afra-
siZeebis mier daxocili xal-
xis saidumlo samarx-samalavs
miagnes da televiziiT gviCve-
nes kadrebi, rogor amohqondaT
samarxidan adaminis Zvlebi,
romelTagan, nawili, dadastu-
rebulad, viTom levan kalaZi-
sa iyo...
rogorc Semdeg gamoirkva,
`samarx-samalavi~ me-17, me-18
me-19 saukunis sagvareulo sa-
marxi iyo, magram, rogorc spe-
coperaciis ambavi, ise `samar-
xebis~ ambavic ambad darCa...
RamRamobiT ra esizmreba
kubdarismoyvare baramiZes, Tvi-
Ton ukeT icis, magram cxr-
agzis parlamentaric rom ga-
xdes, mTeli cxovreba yelze
eqneba SemoWerili specopera-
cia, romelic ojaxisTvis umZi-
mesi SedegiT dasrulda _ oja-
xis ori wevri, daCexil-dacx-
riluli omex afrasiZe da sax-
lSi cocxlad gamomwvari evge-
ni afrasiZe, cocxlad darCeni-
li dabrmavebuli goCa da sas-
tikad nacem-nawamebi Smagi af-
rasiZeebi cixeSi, am specopera-
ciis Semswre Smagis meuRle _
fsiqiatriul klinikaSi, xolo
bebia da oTxi SviliSvili
usaxlkarod da Semweobis ga-
reSe darCenili.
meti raRa unda Tqva bara-
miZis gamtknarebuli saxis Sem-
xedvarem ase naucbaTevad, mag-
ram rac iTqva, is araa sakmari-
si?!...
maia WeliZe
cxragzis parlamentari rom gaxde, afrasiZeebis codva mainc mogeweva, baramiZe!
omexafrasiZe
afrasiZeebissaxli
13saerTo gazeTi#37 (221), 29.VIII-4.IX, 2012 w.
guram petriaSvili:`wina saparlamento arCevnebSi
me mxari davuWure da myavs
amis mowmeebi, me arasodes ara-
fers ar vmalav, mxari davuWi-
re leiboristul moZraobas. es
iciT, saidan modis? es aris
ara partiuli ambebi, es aris
Cemi cxovreba. Cemi cxovreba
aseTia: me var sofleli biWi.
Cemze amitomac iyvnen gabraze-
buli e.w. elitaruli... vnaxe
kuboSi es elitarizmi... elita-
ruli warmomadgenlebi inte-
ligenciis, rom me var xixo,
soflidan gamosuli, rogor
vbedav me... es iyo sasacilo,
imitom, rom me erTxel gamo-
viwvie egeni. axlac viwvev, isev
igive SemadgenlobiT viwvev.
dawyebuli im liana isakaZiT,
robert sturuaTi da sxvebiTa
da sxvebiT... axla roberti
moxsnes da ar SeiZleba masze
ramis Tqma. magram rom ar mo-
exsnaT, me movxsnidi, radgan man
rusTavelze Tqva, rom SoTa
rusTavels aqvs suleluri po-
ema, romelic savsea vefxvebis
xocviT da tiriliT. Se kai ka-
co, rusuli skola gaqvs dam-
Tavrebuli.... albaT, dadgmac
imitom unda, rom gaaTaxsiros
albaT. ase dawera maSin, me min-
da vaCveno, ra sisuleleao.
Cemzec visaubreb... magali-
Tad, dRes, jer ar wamikiTxavs
da wavikiTxav albaT dRes,
romeliRac gazeTSi, xaCilavas
gazeTSi viRaca qalma damcxo.
ratom damcxo, sainteresoa!
ver miaRwies Tavis mizans, al-
baT. me SimSilic gamovcade, si-
civec, usaxlkarobac gamovca-
de, umuSevrobac, yvelaferi ga-
movcade, erTaderTi ar gamo-
micdia sikvdili! albaT, unda
movmkvdariyavi me da maSin iqne-
boda kmayofili is qalbatoni,
romelic Cemze wers. gavauTo-
veb im naZiralas, davaviwyeb we-
ra-kiTxvas saerTod! gpirdebiT
me Tqven! roca wavikiTxav im
gazeTs. ra dabeWdes, jer vna-
xoT! gvinda-ar gvinda gadavdi-
varT pirovnebebze, imitom, rom
pirovnebebma moaxdines es amba-
vi, gana sxvam moaxdina. me, ma-
galiTad piradad, arc minaxavs
da arc didi survili maqvs
vnaxo gia yaryaraSvili. gia
yaryaraSvilma Tvis droze mo-
atyua zviadi, moatyua mTeli
Cveni xalxi. wavida osebTan un-
da vibrZoloo, wauyvana xalxi
da Tbiliss rom gascda, Semo-
abruna Tavisi iaraRi da dagvi-
Sina Cven.
araferi bevr xalxs ar ga-
davwvdi... erTi da igive... axla
me aq salome zurabiSvilic
rom movixsenio, Tavis janri
kaSiasTan erTad, naTlia-naT-
lulebi rom SeuRldnen, rac
saqarTveloSi didi codvaa...xo,
es lamazi saubari ar aris. imi-
tom rom me gamovdivar am sve-
turi raRaceebidan, ara var me
sveti...
rac Seexeba sa-
burTaloze deputa-
tobas, me arafers
ise ar gavakeTeb,
rom winaswar ar
vifiqro. me vifiqre
winaswar da axla me
rom vTqva, me maqvs
diaxac Sansi, rom va-
jobo andro uruSaZes
da usufaSvils, Tqven
metyviT, kvlav pirovne-
bebze gadaxvedio da...
maqvs, diaxac, maqvs Sansi. ra-
tomac ar maqvs?! imaTaca aqvT
da mec maqvs!
raSia iciT, saqme, me Camove-
di, samwuxarod Tqvenc xarT im
adamianTa ricxvSi, romlebsac
maincadamainc ara aqvT kargad
Segnebuli, vina var me. me var
guram petriaSvili, romelic,
rom Camovedi, uamravi adamiani
maCerebda quCaSi, uamaravi, Tu
mogatyuoT, momikvdnen Svilebi
da SviliSvilebi, uamravi ada-
miani maCerebda da meubneboda,
gagaxaraT RmerTma, Tqvena xarT
batoni guramio?! me vuTxari,
batonisa ra mogaxsenoT da gu-
ramai naRdad var-meTqi. Zalian
gviyvarxarT, ra kargia, rom Ca-
moxvediTo. amitom maqvs imedi!
amas garda, mas mere, rac me
aqedan wavedi, bevri dro gavi-
da da adamianebs hqondaT saSu-
aleba, wynarad dafiqrebuliyv-
nen. Tu rasa vwer me. me var am
wuTSi, amas geubnebiT sruli
pasuxismgeblobiT, me kritiko-
sica var da amitom SemiZlia,
kargad giTxraT, pirdapir
giTxraT, rom me var saqarTve-
loSi yvelze kargi mezRapre.
mezRapreoba es sasacilo saqme
ar aris. mezRapre iyo anderse-
ni, oskar uaildi, da vin dawe-
ra „patara ufliswuli“?...
rogori mezRaprec var, iseTive
poeti ara var, magram kargi po-
eti var. es patara ambavi ar
aris. amas garda, me viyavi naZa-
ladevSi maJoritari. SegiZli-
aT gaikiTxoT, yovel SemTxveva-
Si me movTxov ki ara, vTxov im
adamianebs, vinc CemTan mosul-
xarT Tqveni gasaWiriT, CemTan
saxlSi rom mosulxarT bevri
Tqvengani, vinc cocxlebi xarT,
wasulebs - naTeli. uTxariT am
adamianebs, rogor SegxvdiT me
Tqven. me SemiZlia davifico,
rom bevr adamains vaSovnine bi-
na, bevri adamiani, usamarTlod
rom iyo cixeSi _ gamoviyvane,
bevrs vaSovnine samuSao, zogs
manqana vaSovie, romelic ekuT-
vno-
da mas. ase vmuSaobdi me. SemiZ-
lia, rom kargad vimuSao.
saakaSviliT dawyebuli
usufaSviliT damTavrebuli,
yvelas ilia WavWavaZis port-
reti ukidia kabinetSi, ilia
uyvarT! iliam Tqva aseTi ram,
ilias sameba aseTi aris: ena, ma-
muli, sarwmunoeba. enis uke-
Tesi damcveli, SegiZliaT
hkiTxoT, visac gindaT, enis
ukeTesi damcveli vidre viyavi
me, saqarTveloSi Znelad moi-
Zebneba. avtomati me ar amiRia.
Tumca im naZiralebis sawinaaR-
mdegod, vinc Cven gvebrZoda,
saWiro iyo, rom ameRo da cu-
dia, rom ver aviRe. maSin iqne-
ba me damecva berdia beriaSvi-
li da Cemi Zmakaci - amiran ka-
laZe, da ise advilad veRar
moeklaT egeni.
rac Seexeba cxovrebis gaum-
jobesebas, am wuTSi getyviT,
Cems konkurentebs araferi ar
aqvT Camoyalibebuli, rom vus-
men, axla iwyeben „meti sarge-
beli xalxs“, ras niSnavs meti
sargebeli? guSin rac hqondaT,
imaze metia dRes? meorec, sar-
gebeli ra sityvaa, CarCuli,
vaWruli sityvaa. sargebeli ki
ara, mieciT xalxs wesieri sa-
muSao, mieciT xalxs wesieri
xelfasi, da araferi ar sWir-
debaT imaT, rom, kafe gaxsnan,
is gaxsnan. me ar miTqvams samu-
Saos Sesaxeb da magaze pasuxs
ver gagcemT. magram me vici,
aseTi magaliTi daniis cxovre-
bis. daniSi yvelaze mdidar
adamians SeuZlia iyos mxolod
10 000-jer mdidari, vidre
yvelaze Raribi. es imas niS-
navs, rom me Tu mdidari kaci
var, me unda vecado, iseTi
cxovreba Sevqmna, maSin meqneba
meti fulis gakeTebis saSua-
leba, Tu amaT raRacas mivcem,
am Rarib xalxs. raRac aseTi
unda moxdes.~
`maestro~,
`pirdapiri saubari
zaza xuciSvilTan~,
fragmentebi interviudan
goga xaindrava: `nika
rurua aris kriminali, dam-
naSave da ar vapireb misi ga-
monaTqvamebis komentirebas.
darwmunebuli var igi,
rogorc yvela sxva
damnaSave, romel-
mac Tavi moiyara
saakaSvilis gar-
Semo, iseve agebs
pasuxs Tavis namoR-
vawarze, rogorc
saakaSvili.
rac Seexeba leni-
nizms, erT rameSi dave-
Tanxmebi, Zalian axlosaa
am mdgomareobasTn saakaS-
vili. rogorc istoriidan
viciT, Tavis droze leni-
nisTvis kremlSi gazeTebi
SemohqondaT, romelic spe-
cialurad misTvis iyo da-
beWdili. TviTin ki darboda
da xes xan erT kuTxeSi
rgavda, mere amoiRebda da
meore kuTxeSi dargavda. re-
alurad, saakaSilic am mij-
nazea misuli, ubralod,
qalaqebs aSenebs xeebis
nacvlad.
Cveni yvelaze didi
ubedureba is aris, rom
ar gvinda simarTles
SevxedoT TvalebSi, va-
RiaroT, rom qveynis sa-
TaveSi dgas fsiqiurad
SeSlili adamiani! es
aris mTavari da amis Se-
degia saqarTveloSi da-
nergili sistema, sxvadasxva
uwyebebi, romelTac lamazi
saxelebi ki hqviaT, magram
sinamdvileSi sadamsjelo
da sruliad ukanonoa. sanam
Cven yvelani erTad, evropa
iqneba, amerika Tu saqarT-
velo, ar daveTanxmebiT di-
agnozs, rom saqarTvelos
saTaveSi dgas wonasworobi-
dan gamosuli adamiani, ro-
melic ver akontrolebs Ta-
vis qmedebas da rac mTava-
ria, ver akontrolebs Tavis
enas. me vadastureb am diag-
nozs, xolo rac Seexeba po-
litkur opozicias, Zalian
naklebad maxsovs dRes po-
litikur avanscenaze mdgom
opozicias iseTive gamonaTq-
vamebi hqonoda, rogorc me.
me var opozicia, magram ara
politikuri! SeiZleba vin-
mes rame uTqvams pirvel
pirze, magram ra vqnaT, es
realobaa, saakaSvili rom
avadmyofia es icis mTelma
msofliom. nebismieri adami-
ani, vinc sami wuTi uyurebs
mis gamosvlas, amas advilad
mixvdeba! anu kritika mtris
xatis Zebnaze naklebad
ekuTvnis politikur opozi-
cias. Cven, danarCen sazoga-
doebas, ki ar gvevaleba we-
sebis dacva. me vlaparakob
imas, raSic darwmunebuli
var da amaSi eWvi ar epare-
ba, ara marto opozicias,
aramed saakaSvilis uaxloes
garemocvasac ki, dedamisis
CaTvliT, rom es adamiani ab-
soluturad aris gasuli
moxmarebis zonidan!
rac Seexeba euTos sapar-
lamento ansambleis Sefase-
bas - mcire leninizmi, Cemis
azriT niSnebi ki ar aris
mxolod amis saqarTveloSi,
aramed gaqanebuli leniniz-
mia! amas adasturebs krimina-
li, araraoba ruruas gancxa-
deba, romelic uflebas aZ-
levs Tavs asambleis prezi-
dents SeniSvnebi misces. es
arsi leninizmis Tavi da Ta-
vi! xolo Ciora ras WikWi-
kebs, es visTvis aris sainte-
reso, magaT Tavis wreSi aRa-
ravin usmens! Cven am yvel-
fers wlebis ganmavlobaSi
vuyurebdiT. evropam Zalian
didi Secdoma dauSva, rom
wlebis ganmavlobaSi Tvals
xuWavda, radgan es aris saf-
rTxe Tavad evropisTvis, ro-
ca is uSvebs, rom Tundac
mis periferiaSi arsebobs
qveyana, romlis demokratia-
sa da reformebzea laparaki
da sinamdvileSi is aris ne-
obolSevikuri reJimi. da Tu
Sen amas eguebi, es niSnavs,
rom sakuTar Tavs ormos
uTxri, romelSic adre Tu
gvian aucileblad Cavardebi.
amis niSani yo avstriis pre-
mierad rom airCies faqtiu-
rad, faSisti da mere Se-
mohkres gangaSis zari! dRes
qveyanaSi, romelsac preten-
zia aqvs demokratiaze, aris
reJimi, romlis saTaveSic
dgas aRviraxsnili bolSevi-
ki! da igi imitom aris pir-
veli piri, rom asaTiani
aRar aris TbilisSi!
adamianis uflebis, Tavi-
suflebis, Rirsebis mxriv
dRes gvaqvs bevrad uaresi
qveyana, vidre rva wlis win.
biujetia aqvs meti! sadaa es
infrastruqtura, maCveneT?
ganaxlebul baTumSi meore
sarTulze wyali ar adis da
qalaqSi kanalizacia ar
aris. Tu gainteresebT ga-
naxlebuli baTumi, moSor-
diT im kempinskebs da gaia-
reT baTumSi. asevea gzebic,
romelic Tavis droze, rva
wlis win daigo. me maxsovs
mTavrobis wevri viyavi, ro-
ca mileniumis programas xe-
li moawra zura Jvaniam,
rogorc premierma da 2009
wels es gza unda yofili-
yo baTumSi, 2011 wel - so-
xumSi. maxsovs didi bil-
bordebi iyo gakruli da is
fuli, romelic amaSi iyo
aRebuli, am proeqts iTva-
liswinebda. sad aris gaCe-
rebuli es gza? roca deda-
qalaqSi patara wvimis gamo
adamianebi iRupebian, sadac
saniaRvre sistema ar arse-
bobs, romel infrastruq-
turaze vlaparakobT?!~
`maestro~,
fragmentebi interviudan
pativcemulo guram! is
qalbatoni, Tqven rom naZira-
las uwodebT da dauToebas
upirebT, me var, irine gogo-
saSvili.
radgan Tqvensas ar iSliT,
male iseT dokumentur masa-
lebs gamovaqveyneb, vnaxavT,
vis daaviwydeba wera-kkiTxva
da vin darCeba dauToebuli.
i. gogosaSvili
14 saerTo gazeTi #37 (221), 29.VIII-4.IX, 2012 w.
saakaSvilis reJimisTvis gan-
sxvavebuli azris mqone yvela
adamiani rom mtrad aRiqmeba,
amis erT-erTi TvalsaCino maga-
liTi generali Tamaz TamazaSvi-
lia, romelsac `nacmoZraobis~
winaSe erTaderTi `danaSauli~
miuZRvis, igi `qarTu jgufis~
prezidentis irakli RaribaSvi-
lis simamria. generals isic ar
akmares, TiTidan gamowovili
braldebiT (cecxlsasroli
iaraRisa da asafeTqebeli masa-
lebis ukanono Senaxva-tareba)
cixeSi rom gamoketes da axla
televiziebSi intensiurad tri-
alebs videoklipebi, rom Turme
TamazaSvili kaxeTis samxareo
policiis ufrosobis dros kri-
minalur avtoritetebTan iyo
`Sekruli~ da narkomovaWreebsa
da adamianis gamtaceblebs mfar-
velobda. bunebrivad Cndeba
kiTxva, Tu es adamiani amden `da-
naSaulSi~ iyo SemCneuli, ra
uSlida xels `vardosnebs~ mis-
Tvis aqamde moeTxovaT pasuxi,
ratom gaaxsendaT es yvelaferi
biZina ivaniSvilis politikaSi
mosvlis Semdeg? aSkaraa, rom aq
sul sxva raRacasTan gvaqvs saq-
me.
Tamaz TamazaSviliwlebis ganmavlobaSimarTlac iyo kaxeTissamxareo policiis Se-fi, mis gamgeblobaSiiyo pankisis xeobac.ase, rom, generalma yve-laferi kargad icis,rac iq xdeboda da rasaqmianobiT iyvnen da-kavebuli im periodSiTundac es Cveni `axal-gazrda reformatore-bi~.
arasasurveli mowmeebis mi-
marT rom `vardosnebs~ gansa-
kuTrebuli damokidebuleba
aqvT, yvelas kargad moexseneba.
Tu imasac gavixsenebT, rom dRe-
vandeli xelisufleba yofili
`mxedrionelebis~ navsayudelia,
TamazaSvilma ki Tavis droze
marto kaxeTSi ki ara, lamis
mTel saqarTveloSi aRkveTa ma-
Ti TavaSvebuli TareSi, gamo-
ricxuli ar aris, rom es maTi
mxridan SurisZiebac iyos.
zurab gamezardaSvi-li:: `am klipebs Tu davuje-
rebT, Turme Tamaz TamazaSvili
adamianebis gamtaceblebs da nar-
komovaWreebs mfarvelobda, aseve
`Sekruli~ yofila kanonier
qurdebTan. xmamaRla vacxadeb, es
aris sruli sicrue. batoni Ta-
mazis samxareo policiis ufro-
sobis dros me lagodexis kri-
minaluri policiis ufrosi gax-
ldiT. masze mxolod imis Tqma
SemiZlia, rom iyo kargi xelm-
ZRvaneli da Zalze Zlieri ope-
ratiuli muSaki. misi xelmZRva-
nelobiT uamravi specoperacia
gvaqvs Catarebuli ara marto
kaxeTSi, aramed mTel saqarTve-
loSi. areulobis wlebSi kaxeT-
Si uamravi mZime danaSauli iyo
momxdari _ adamianebis gataceba,
mkvleloba, yaCaRuri Tavdasxma
da am danaSaulobebSi eWvmitani-
lebis dakaveba gvixdeboda, ro-
gorc kaxeTSi, ise TbilisSi,
rusTavSi, WiaTurasa da guria-
Sic. es iyo kargad organizebu-
li bandituri dajgufeba da mi-
si gauvnebelyofa (1996-97 wle-
bi) Tamaz TamazaSvilisa da la-
godexis maSindeli prokuroris
zurab zurabaSvilis xelmZRvane-
lobiT moxda. 186-epizodiani
saqme iyo, am dajgufebis yvela
wevri Sesabamisi braldebiT mie-
ca pasuxisgebaSi da obieqturi
sasamarTlo ganaCenic dadga.
am damsaxurebis adamiani ki
dRes patimaria da ukanonod ix-
dis sasjels, magram mjera, rom
samarTlianoba izeimebs da bato-
ni Tamazi isev Cadgeba qarTuli
samarTaldamcavi struqturebis
avangardSi.
- bbiiZZiinnaa iivvaanniiSSvviilliiss sswwoorreedd
aamm ggaannccxxaaddeebbaamm ggaaaaRRiizziiaannaa nnaaccxxee-
lliissuufflleebbaa ddaa eess kklliippeebbiicc `̀ggaa-
mmooaaccxxvveess~~......
- Tamaz TamazaSvili marto
kargi profesionali ki ara, kar-
gi meojaxecaa, hyavs SesaniSnavi
meuRle, Svilebi, SviliSvilebi.
rodesac aseT braldebas uyene-
ben adamians, xom unda gaiTva-
liswinon, amisTvis ra mtkicebu-
lebebi aqvT. es misi ojaxisTvis
didi fsiqologiuri dartymaa.
am klipebis Semqmneli erTi
dRiT ar unda cxovrobdes, mis-
Tvis morali da zneoba ufro
mets unda niSnavdes, vidre vin-
mes saamebeli gancxadebebis ke-
Teba.
rac Seexeba misTviswayenebul brals, raSi
sWirdeboda generalsdauregistrirebeliiaraRi, roca mas ofi-cialurad aqvs iara-Ris tarebis ufleba.maioris zemoT Cinismqone pirs, romelic
daTxovniT ar tovebsZalovani struqturisrigebs, sicocxlis bo-lomde aqvs iaraRistarebis ufleba. bato-ni Tamazi ki sakuTarigancxadebis safuZvel-zea Sss-dan gaTavisuf-lebuli.
biZina ivaniSvilma politika-
Si mosvlis Sesaxeb rom gaakeTa
gaakeTa gancxadeba, Tamaz Tama-
zaSvili maleve daakaves am ab-
surduli braldebiT. vimeoreb,
misi xelmZRvanelobiT Zalze
bevri specoperacia gvaqvs Cata-
rebuli, ra drosac uamravi dam-
naSave iqna dakavebuli da pasu-
xisgebaSi micemuli.
kaxeTis policiambatoni Tamazis xelm-ZRvanelobiT gadatexawelSi damnaSaveTa sam-yaro da `mxedrioni~ ka-xeTSi. mis mokvlaze`mxedrionelebs~ ful-adi jildo hqondaTdawesebuli. Tavad varamis Sesaxeb saqmis ku-rsSi. ranairad SeiZle-ba, rom adamiani, rom-lis likvidaciaSic fu-ls ixdidnen, raime sa-xiT dakavSirebuli yo-filiyo kriminalur
samyarosTan?- rraammddeennaaddaacc vviiccii,,
TTqqvveenncc ggiippiirreebbddnneenn ddaaWWeerraass..
- iqidan gamomdinare,
rom aqtiurad var CarTuli
saarCevno kampaniaSi, Cems
ojaxzec iyo zewolebi. me
da Cems vaJs daWeras gvpi-
rebdnen. amaze Tqveni gaze-
Tic werda. me lagodexis
raionidan var. iq erT pi-
rovnebas, romelic Cveni aq-
tivisti iyo, kerZod, zviad
xvedeliZes daavales, rom
sul Cems gverdiT yofili-
yo da informaciebi miewo-
debina uSiSroebis samsaxu-
risTvis. is roca daakaves, pir-
dapir mosTxoves, an `qaTmebis~
sakanSi waxval an Cveni agenti
gaxdebio. mas Tavi rom daexsna,
sanam saqarTvelos datovebas
moaxerxebda, informatorobaze
daTanxmda. es pirovneba axla
gaqceulia da ucxoeTidan gaake-
Ta es gancxadeba. mas dauswreb-
lad miusajes oTxweliwadnaxe-
variani patimroba. dedaCemi peda-
gogia da Cems gamo isic gaaTavi-
sufles samsaxuridan.
vinmes CvenTvis mikerZoeba
rom ar daebralebina, zurab ga-
mezardaSvili dainteresebuli
piria da cxadia, Tamaz TamazaS-
vils daicavso, amitom `saerTo
gazeTma~ xsenebuli sakiTxebis
Sefaseba saerTaSoriso organi-
zacia `kavkasiel xalxTa konfe-
deraciis~ Tavmjdomares zaal
kasreliSvils sTxova, miTume-
tes, rom igi warmoSobiT kaxe-
Tidanaa da Zalze kargad icnobs
Tavis droze iq ganviTarebul
movlenebs.
zaal kasreliSvili:`Tamaz TamazaSvils me pirovnu-
lad ar vicnob, aranairi Sexeba
ar mqonia, magram, mogexsenebaT,
CeCneTis omis Semdeg Crdilokav-
kasiidan ltolvilTa didi naka-
di gadmovida kaxeTSi da xSirad
moumarTavT CemTvis, rogorc ko-
nfederaciis xelmZRvanelisTvis
xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebs,
oRond ara regionaluri poli-
ciis xelmZRvanelis doneze. mec
Cemi SesaZleblobebisa da kavSi-
rebis farglebSi, vcdilobdi
amecilebina mosalodneli safr-
Txeebi, rogorc saqarTvelosT-
vis, ise patiosani Crdilokavka-
sielebisTvis. imitom, rom ram-
denime cudi adamianis gamo bevr
Zalze karg Crdilokavkasiels
Seeqmna problema, radgan isini
am adamianebTan gaaigives. ase,
rom, metnaklebad saqmis kursSi
var, rac xdeboda. Tamaz Tama-
zaSvili, faqtiurad, am klipebi-
dan gavicani. aqamde megona, rom
sareklamo klipi ama Tu im kom-
panias, pirovnebasa Tu Tu
brends uwevda reklamas. axla ki
vixile `unikaluri~ klipi, ro-
desac viRacas lanZRaven.
Cemi azriT, xeli-suflebam Zalze sasa-cilo mdgomareobaSiCaigdo Tavi. TamazaS-vili mas Semdeg daiWi-res, rac biZina ivaniS-
vili qarTul politi-kaSi gamoCnda da ba-tonma Tamazma piradadumaspinZla `qarTuliocnebis~ warmomadgen-lebs qiziySi.
me mis warsuls kargad ar
vicnob, magram vsvam kiTxvas, Tu
es kaci kaxeTSi mafiis bosi iyo,
2003 wlidan xom TviTon arian
xelisuflebaSi da 2012 wlamde
ratom ar daiWires, axla gaax-
sendaT misi `danaSaulobebi~?
maSin ratom ar gaasamarTles
adamianis gamtaceblebisa da kri-
minalur avtoritetebis mfarve-
lobisTvis, an narkotranzitis
kontrolisTvis? klipSi am da-
naSaulebze saubroben, magram
misTvis es braldebebi ar wauye-
nebiaT. Tu marTla damnaSavea es
kaci da mis mimarT pirovnul an-
gariSsworebas ar aqvs adgili,
maSin gaesamarTlebinaT am bral-
debebiT da sajaro ganxilvis
sagani gamxdariyo sasamarTlo
procesi, rom gagverkvia mtyuan-
marTali. amas ar akeTeben da ge-
nerals iaraRis ukanono tare-
bisTvis asamarTleben. minda
giTxraT, rom yvela maRali Ci-
nis oficers da yvela yofil
deputats, 1992 wlidan moyo-
lebuli, iaraRis Senaxvisa da
tarebis ufleba aqvs. amis para-
lelurad is feTqebadi masale-
bis Senaxvis braldebac wauyenes.
feTqebad masalad iTvleba gli-
cerini, `margancovka~ da aceto-
nic, romelic sayofacxovrebo
pirobebSi Cveulebriv moixmare-
ba. Cven arc is viciT, am kacs ra
feTqebadi masala `aRmouCines~.
ise, `qarTuli ocne-bis~ winaaRmdeg martoes samarcxvino klipiar yofila, sxva klipiciyo, sadac daRupuligmiris dedis emociurida uaryofiTi ganwyo-ba gamoiyenes. leqsonatroSvili marTlacgmirulad daiRupa, ma-gram, saubedurod, de-damisma dRemde ar ic-is, rom misi Svili br-ZolaSi miatoves.
SurisZieba nacionaluradrogor SeiZleba Tamaz TamazaSvils
kriminalebTan kavSiri davabraloT, roca misi
likvidaciisTvis `mxedrions~ da kriminalur
samyaros fuladi jildo hqondaT dawesebuli
15saerTo gazeTi#37 (221), 29.VIII-4.IX, 2012 w.
man arc is icis, rom am nat-
roSvilis danayofis brZolis
dros im mimarTulebiT gaSveba,
ra mimarTulebiTac gauSva misma
xelmZRvanelobam, iyo danaSau-
lebrivi qmedeba. dazvervis gare-
Se konkretuli mimarTulebiT
Setevis dawyebis brZanebis gace-
ma, danaSaulia. am mamacma biWma
uTanasworo brZolaSi, Tanac wa-
gebul omSi gmiruli Seteva mii-
tana da ramdenadac vici, daWri-
li da cecxlwakidebuli bolom-
de ibrZoda. es maSin, roca misi
batalionis meTauri vinme kikabi-
Ze ugzo-ukvlod iyo gamqrali.
kaciSvilma ar icis kikabiZisnai-
ri meTaurebi rodis da sad gaq-
rnen. Tu ukandaxevis brZaneba
hqondaT miRebuli, maSin savele
meTaurebi ratom gawires?
modiT, isev TamazaSvilis Te-
mas davubrundeT. xelisuflebas
Tu imis Tqma unda, rom biZina
ivaniSvilis garemocva cudia, ma-
Sin bolomde gviTxras simarTle.
vsargeblob SemTxve-viT da me zaal kasre-liSvili `kavkasiel xa-lxTa konfederaciis~Tavmjdomare am da aramarto am sakiTxebze te-ledebatebSi viwvev, ro-gorc am klipebis avto-rebs, ise `nacmoZrao-bis~ liderebsac, maTSoris petre ciskariS-vils, romelsac am kli-pebis mixedviT Tu vims-jelebT, kargad undascnoboda Tamaz Tama-zaSvili. ramdenjermexmamaRla daisva sa-kiTxi, rom dRevandelisaparlamento umrav-lesobis lideri iyoe.w. amRebi, anu Suamava-li narkomovaWreebsada narkomomxmareblebsSoris da rom is amis ga-mo hyavdaT gatacebulipankisis xeobaSi.
Tavis droze am ambavs didi
skandali mohyva, magram mere yve-
laferi miaCumaTes. saparlamento
umravlesobas, petre ciskariSvi-
lis advokats an nacmoZraobis aq-
tivs am sakiTxze erTxel mainc
Tu gaukeTebiaT raime gancxadeba?
xmas ratom ar iReben? Tqvi, rom
ase iyo, an ar iyo, ratom dum-
xar?~
maSindel `axalgazrda re-
formatorebs~ 2003 wlidan ukve
xelisuflebas arasdros uTqvams
Tu risTvis gaitaces petre cis-
kariSvili. maSin oficia-
lurad mxolod is iTqva,
rom batoni petre Tavis
sacolesTan erTad seir-
nobda kus tbaze, ra
drosac moxda gataceba.
albaT, bevrs axsovs ga-
tacebulebis gamoxsnis
Semdeg zurab Jvaniasa da
maSindeli Ss ministr ka-
xa TargamaZis erToblivi
brifingi. TargamaZis
orazrovani sicilic ge-
maxsovrebaT, roca is
parlamentis Tavmjdoma-
ris maRalfardovan gan-
cxadebebs ismenda. sazogadoebis-
Tvis maSinve naTeli gaxda, rom
sinamdvileSi arc ise iyo saqme,
rogorc moqkavSirma SemogvasaRa.
sxvaTa Soris, im periodSi da
Semdgomac aqtiurad vrceldebo-
da xmebi, rom ciskariSvili da
misi megobari gogona sinamdvile-
Si pankisis xeobaSi daiWires,
rodesac `boeviki-reformatori-
~is narkotikis `asaRebad~ iyo iq
Casuli. profesional policiel-
Ta TqmiT, narkotikebTan dakavSi-
rebuli pirebi xSirad iyenebdnen
qalbatonebs Sirmad, policias
eWvi rom ar gasCenoda. ise, mxo-
lod gulubryvilo Tu ifiqrebs,
aseT saqmeze qalTan erTad vin
wavao. rogorc ambobdnen, ciska-
riSvils erTi iqauri narkomo-
vaWre `gadagdebuli~ hyavda, anu
saqoneli `posleze~ wamoiRo da
mere fuli aRar gadauxada. mar-
Talia, man meore `barigas~ fuli
gadauxada, magram am ukanasknelma
igi `gadagdebulTan~ `CauSva~
klienti aq aris da imoqmedeo,
Tumca zaal kasreliSvili am
versias ar eTanxmeba.
zaal kasreliSvili::`madloba RmerTs, rom Cvens or-
ganizacias arc maSin da arc ax-
la kriminalebTan da teroris-
tebTan saqme ar hqonia, magram
uamrav informacias vflobdiT.
Cvens xelT arsebuli in-
formaciiT, petre ciska-
riSvili da misi sacole
marTlac Tbilisidan gai-
taces. maT pankisSi im mar-
tivi mizeziT ar aiyvandnen,
rom amis gamo adgilobriv
mosaxleobas da maSindel
ltolvilebs, romelTa
Soris mebrZolebic iyvnen,
mdgomareoba gaurTuldebo-
daT. maT erCiaT es xeobis
gareT momxdariyo. ramdena-
dac vici, erT-erT narko-
movaWres, romelic Semdeg
tualetSi aafeTqes, adgi-
lobrivebi da ltolvile-
bi imitom daupirispirdnen,
rom man ramdenjerme Tavisi kri-
minaluri aqcia-operacia pankisis
teritoriaze Caatara. is Turme
gaafrTxiles, Seni saqcieliT
qarTvelebis problemebs aq mog-
vitan, Cven dagvbraldeba da meo-
red aRar gaakeToo. man isev rom
gaimeora, uTqvamT: tualetis
virTxasaviT iqcevi da cxovreba-
sac ase daamTavrebo. meeWveba
vefxia margoSvili CeCen mebrZo-
lebs aefeTqebinaT, radgan ro-
gorc giTxariT, isini iq proble-
mas ar Seiqmnidnen (rogorc san-
do da kargad informirebulma
wyarom `saerTo gazeTs~ uTxra,
margoSvili `reformatorebTan~
daaxloebuli persona gaxldaT
da savaraudod swored maT moi-
Sores, radgan bevr maTTvis ara-
sasurvel informacias flobda –
m.s.).
Cven maSinac da dResac aqti-
ur sazogadoebriv-politikur
cxovrebas veweviT. miT umetes,
rom maSin Cven viTvlebodiT Se-
vardnaZis #1, realuri Zalis
mqone opoziciad da Sesabamisad,
kanonieri xelisuflebis sisxli-
ani gadatrialebis avtorebis
opoziciadac. me rigiT meomrebs
ki ara, maT patronebs vgulisx-
mob. ramdenjerme scades kidec
CvenTan dapirispireba, magram Zvi-
ri daujdaT da Tavi dagvanebes,
miT umetes mas mere, rac zogi-
erTi maTgani Zalze gamdidrda
da sazRvargareT `voiaJebi~ da-
iwyo.
ase, rom, yvelaferikargad maxsovs. Tundacis, rom `mxedrionis~yvelaze Zlieri qveda-nayofi kaxeTSi iyo.isic maxsovs, rom sa-qarTveloSi ori gamok-veTilad mebrZolo xa-siaTis, Tan Wkviani ma-RalCinosani policie-li ebrZoda ara marto`mxedrions~, aramed mT-lianad kriminalur sa-myaros. eseni iyvnen Ta-maz TamazaSvili da viq-tor gobroniZe (guriissamxareo policiis uf-rosi – m.s.). `vardosneb-ma~ orive gayares samsa-xuridan.
rodesac samxareo policiis
ufrosi xar da gaqvs ufleba da
Sinagani mowodebac, rom ebrZo-
lo saxelmwifoebriv doneze ay-
vanil, gasamxedroebul krimina-
lur dajgufebas, cxadia, gaqvs
informacia aramarto rigiT kri-
minalebze, aramed maT mfarveleb-
zec.
aqedan gamomdinare, Ta-maz TamazaSvilma daviqtor gobroniZem yve-laferi ician `vardos-nebis~ saqmianobaze 2003wlamdec da `vardebisrevoluciis~ Semdegac.
Tu vinmes hgonia, rom 2003
wlis Semdeg kaxeTis regionis
gamgeblebi, gubernatorebi da de-
putatebi mxolod xelfasiT
cxovroben, maT teledebadebateb-
Si davumtkiceb, rom Zalze seri-
ozuli korufciis budea ara mar-
to Rvinis da koniakis spirtis
warmoebis sferoSi, aramed xe-
tyesa da sawvav-sapox masalebSic,
romelic azerbaijanidan kontra-
banduli gziT Semoedineboda.
sanam Tamaz Ta-mazaSvili poli-tikaSi gaereoda,nacelitas xelsar uSlida da imi-tomac ar exebod-nen. axla misialaparakebis See-SindaT. sanam Cu-mad xar, naciona-lebi fiqroben,rom an debilixar da araferiici, anda ici, mag-ram xmis amoRebisgeSinia. maT ori-
ve varianti awyobT.rogorc am qveynis erTi ri-
giTi moqalaqe, Sevwuxdi amdeni
uniWo klipebis yurebiT. batono
mixeil saakaSvilo, Ss ministro,
uSiSroebis sabWos mdivano,
aRiareT rom modiT, Tamaz Tama-
zaSvili iyo da aris is Zala,
romelsac Tqvens winaaRmdeg ka-
xeTSi realurad SeeZlo proble-
mebis Seqmna da amitomac moiSo-
reT~.
manana suxiSvili
politikur oponen-
ts, Tundac konku-
rents mosisxle
mtrad rom aRiqvam,
maT da maT momxreebs uwmin-
durs rom uwodeb, sakons-
titucio vadebis dacva rom
ar ginda da a.S. da a.S. vina
xar amis Semdeg? vina xar da
namdvili prorusi mmarTve-
li, radgan pro-rusulia is,
rac ruseTs gvamsgavsebs, mis
politikur sistemas imeo-
rebs. Torem me, piradad, ev-
ropisken mimiwevs guli,
iqiTken, sadac xelsufleba-
Ta demokratiuli cvla
sruliad bunebrivi ramaa da
politikuri oponenti, ub-
ralod, oponentia da ara
mosisxle mteri. ar SemiZ-
lia am barbarosobis da Ca-
morCenilobis atana
egre iyo Tu ara?
nino burjanaZe par-
lamentis Tavmjdo-
mare rom ar yofi-
liyo, miSa gaxdeboda prezi-
denti? burjanaZes rom ar
gaepravebina miSas revolu-
cia, axla vin iqneboda qvey-
nis pirveli piri? kacooo,
maSin Tu kai qali da didi
patrioti iyo, axla radaa
ruseTis agenti? ase 3-4 we-
liwadSi xdebian adamianebi
super-moRalateebi?
rodesac tyveebis
gacvla gagania omis
dros afxazeTSi me
da paata zaqareiS-
vilma davasruleT... nabiW-
varma giorgi aivengos Ze ba-
ramiZem interviu misca te-
leviziasa da presas, rogor
riskavda Tavisi dampali gva-
miT am gacvlebisas....mogvia-
nebiT movida da gvTxova ka-
rierisTvis mWirdebao!!!!!
dRes baTumSi ori
tyveTamfarveli ga-
moikveTa ..... Turme
aivengoviCTan erTad
mixo nikalaeviCic cvlida
tyveebs!!!!
yvela variantSi
kargad viqnebiT, an
kibos movicilebT,
an SevewirebiT Ta-
visuflebas, riTac samoTxes
gavinaRdebT, madloba miSas,
rom qristianuli saTnoebiT
Tavganwirvis Sansi mogvca.
nacebo, riT ver ga-
igeT, rom veranairi
cifri ver giSve-
liT... normaluri
da Rirseuli qarTveli 5-s
samudamod amoiRebs xmarebi-
dan. Tqven verc CergoleiS-
vilis “tabula” da veRarc
xaratiSvilis gamravlebis
tabula giSveliT
xom giTxariT, miSa
dinozavria-Tqo?
150 weli apirebs
cxovrebas ... es da-
sawyisisTvis, Torem danar-
Cens mere gadawyvets.
miSaaaaaaaaaaaaa ! ! !
kenedis mkvlelo-
bas, rodis daabra-
leb `qarTul ocne-
bas”, ha? apa, sxva aRar dar-
Ca araferi, da tyupebis
afeTqebas!:) darCenili kidev
bevria. maS pizis koSki vin
daxara? da saerTodac eWvia,
rom kaxeTis dasetyvac misi
ideaa, rom mere daxmareboda
xalxs da moesyida. amboben
Tavad zevsTan aris garigeba-
Sio. obamas xom biZo afinan-
sebda. mere gvirabi gaTxara
bombeidan londonamde da
motyda.
xalxis azriT
SemogvierTdi facebook-zze
`saerTo ggazeTi~
16 saerTo gazeTi #37 (221), 29.VIII-4.IX, 2012 w.
ggvveessaauubbrreebbaa CCeeCCnneeTTiiss rreess-
ppuubblliikkaa iiCCqqeerriiiiss mmTTaavvrroobbiiss
yyooffiillii wweevvrrii,, aammJJaammaadd ppoollii-
ttiikkuurr eemmiiggrraacciiaaSSii mmyyooffii bbaa-
ttoonnii maTe cixesaSvili
__ bbaattoonnoo mmaaTTee,, mmooggeessaallmmee-
bbiiTT ddaa mmiinnddaa ggkkiiTTxxooTT,, TTuu iicc-
nnoobbTT xxiizzrrii aallddaammoovvss??
_ xizri aldamovs vicnob,
Cven dabadebuli varT saqarT-
velos erT-erT ulamazes
kuTxeSi _ pankisis xeobaSi,
sadac cxovroben saqarTvelos
erTguli qistebi.
didi megobroba ar gvqonia,
is asakiT Cemze ufrosia, Tanac
sxvadasxva soflebSi vcxov-
robdiT.
__ rruussuullii ssaaiinnffoorrmmaacciioo
ssaaSSuuaalleebbeebbii iittyyoobbiinneebbiiaann,, rroomm,,
rrooggoorrcc CCeeCCnneeTTiiss rreessppuubblliikkiiss
wwaarrmmoommaaddggeenneellii xxiizzrrii aallddaammoo-
vvii aammbboobbss,, ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss xxeellii-
ssuufflleebbiiss mmiieerr ddeevvnniilliiaa ddaa
mmookkvvllaass ZZlliivvss ggaaddaarrCCeenniillaa,,
aaxxllaa CCeeCCnneeTTSSiiaa ddaa TTaavvss SSeeddaa-
rreebbiiTT ddaaccuullaadd ggrrZZnnoobbss,, mmaann
bbooddiiSSii mmoouuxxaaddaa CCeeCCeenn xxaallxxss
ddaa ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss xxeelliissuufflleebbiiss
rreeJJiimmii aammxxiillaa,, rraass ggvveettyyvviiTT aamm
ggaannccxxaaddeebbeebbzzee??
_ idevneboda Tu ara xizri
saqarTvelos xelisuflebis-
gan, ver getyviT, magram vici
is, rom CeCen xalxs misi sabo-
diSo araferi sWirs. CeCnebs
misTvis ndobis mandati ar Ca-
ubarebia. eri ndobis mandats
abarebs, magaliTad, kanonierad
arCeul prezidentebs, aseTi
mandati hqondaT tragikulad
gardacvlil kavkasiis prezi-
dentebs: zviad gamsaxurdias,
joxar dudaevs, zelimxan ian-
darbievs, aslan masxadovs, sa-
qarTveloSi arsebuli reJimi,
rusebmac da qarTvelebmac xi-
zirze ukeTesad ician, ase,
rom, amiT mas didi aRmoCena ar
gaukeTebia.
Tu xiziri idevneboda sa-
qarTvelos xelisuflebis mi-
er, maSin qarTul sainforma-
cio saSualebebSi ratom aqeb-
da wlebis ganmavlobaSi saa-
kaSvilis xelisuflebas da
ilaSqrebda opoziciis winaaR-
mdeg?... an CeCen xalxs raSi
mouxada bodiSi, kargad vemsa-
xure xalxs, ar vuRalate
eris Rirsebas da vaJkacobaso
Tu ra? 2004 wlidan is ara-
nair Tanamdebobaze ar muSaob-
da, iyo rigiTi moqalaqe, sa-
qarTveloSi Tavs kargad
grZnobda da iyo im opoziciis
winaaRmdegi, vinc saakaSvilis
reJims ebrZoda.
__ mmaann iissiicc kkii uuTTxxrraa rruussuull
mmeeddiiaass,, rroomm kkooaalliicciiaa `̀qqaarrTTuu-
llii ooccnneebbiiss~~ lliiddeerrii mmeecceennaattii
ddaa qqvveellmmooqqmmeeddii bbiiZZiinnaa iivvaanniiSSvvii-
llii ssaaaakkaaSSvviilliiss rreeJJiimmmmaa SSeeiiZZ-
lleebbaa iisseevvee ggaammooaassaallmmooss ssii-
ccooccxxlleess,, rrooggoorrcc eess ppaattaarrkkaa-
cciiSSvviilliiss SSeemmTTxxvveevvaaSSii ggaaaakkeeTTaaoo..
_ xizirs rusuli sainfor-
macio saSualebebiT rom ar
Seexsenebina ivaniSvilisTvis,
ar icis batonma biZinam, ra un-
da gaakeTos da rogor moiq-
ces? es aris qarTul sainfor-
macio saSualebebSi dabeWdili
masalebis gameoreba. mas dama-
dasturebeli sabuTebi ar dau-
dia, rac niSnavs, rom misi gan-
cxadebebi araseriozuli iyo,
ise ki, ar mesmis, vin miiCnevs
xizir aldamovs politikosad
an diplomatad.
__ CCeeCCnneebbii aarr mmiiiiCCnneevvTT xxiizz-
rrii aallddaammoovvss ppoolliittiikkoossaadd ddaa
ddiipplloommaattaadd?? rriiss ssaaffuuZZvveellzzee
eennddoo mmaass mmaassxxaaddoovvii.. ssaaqqaarrTTvvee-
llooSSii rraa mmiissiiiiTT ggaammooggzzaavvnnaa??
ssxxvvaaTTaa SSoorriiss,, uunnddaa iiTTqqvvaass,,
rroomm iiggii ccuuddii aavvttoorriitteettiiTT aarr
wwaassvvllaa ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooddaann.. qqaarrTTvvee-
lleebbii mmaass ppaattiivvss sscceemmddnneenn..
_ gasagebia, magram xiziri
ar yofila joxaris warmomad-
geneli saqarTveloSi da verc
iqneboda. cxonebuli zviadi ma-
Sin groznoSi iyo da Sevard-
naZis xelisuflebasTan ar yo-
fila araviTari urTierToba.
zustad vici, mas rusi spec-
samsaxurebis zewoliT alapa-
rakeben. kidev gimeorebT, is
aris saqarTvelos moqalaqe da
ar yofila iCqeriis warmomad-
geneli 2004 wlidan.
__ aamm ddRReeeebbSSii SSeessrruullddaa
ccxxiinnvvaalliiss ttrraaggeeddiiiiddaann 44 wwee-
llii,, TTqqvveenn,, vviinncc wwlleebbiiss ggaannmmaavv-
lloobbaaSSii qqaarrTTuullii ((ddaa aarraa mmaarr-
ttoo qqaarrTTuullii,, jjooxxaarr dduuddaaeevviiss
mmTTaavvrroobbaaSSii mmooRRvvaawweeoobbddiiTT))
eerroovvnnuullii mmooZZrraaoobbiiss lliiddeerree-
bbiiss ggvveerrddiiTT iibbrrZZooddiiTT.. ggaammooiiaa-
rreeTT CCeeCCnneeTT-rruusseeTTiiss oorrii oommii,,
rrooggoorr SSeeaaffaasseebbTT 22000088 wwlliiss 88
aaggvviissttooss mmoovvlleenneebbss??
_oms da omis Temas ar min-
da xolme Sevexo, radgan gamo-
viare 4 omi _ inguSeT-oseTis,
afxazeTis da CeCneT-ruseTis
ori omi, romelic dResac ar
aris damTavrebuli. vnaxe aTa-
si ubedureba da gaWirveba. is,
rac moxda 2004 wlis 8 agvis-
tos, ar unda momxdariyo. es
calsaxaa. omSi gamarjvebuli
aravin gamodis. oms orive mxa-
re agebs. 4 weli gavida mas
Semdeg da ra moigom saqarTve-
lom, an ra moiges osebma? ara-
feri ngrevisa da ubedurebis
garda, aris asobiT
sakuTari saxlebidan
devnili mosaxleoba,
dainvalidda xalxi,
arian ugzo-ukvlod
dakargulebi...
kavkasiaSi macxov-
rebeli erebi mcire-
ricxovani varT, ar
SeiZleba Cven Soris
omis an saomari pro-
vokaciis daSveba.
rac Seexeba ru-
seTs, putinma ganacxa-
da, ara mxolod vem-
zadebodiT saomari
operaciebisTvis, aramed Cven
vamzadebTdiT da vaiaraRebdiT
samxreT oseTis mosaxleobasa-
co. ruseTis generalur Stabs
hqonia sxva gegmac, rom iqnas
dapyrobili saqarTvelos te-
ritoriebi, aRniSnaven, rusi
eqspertebi, mokled, midis ga-
nuwyveteli laparaki omis Se-
saxeb da moskovSi Cems megobar
laSa latarias aqvs biznesi,
ltolvili cxinvaleli qale-
bi midian masTan samuSaos
saTxovnelad da iwyeben kide-
vac muSaobas. amiT imis Tqma
minda, rom SeuZlebelia xalx-
Ta Soris urTierTobis gawyve-
ta da moSla, megobruli ur-
TierToba mainc imarjvebs.
jarebis sardlis yuraSvi-
lis gancxadeba msoflio sain-
formacio saSualebebma aita-
ces: `cxinvalSi saqarTvelos
konstituciuri wesrigis aRd-
genisTvis vawarmoebT omso~...
ar SeiZleba situaciis
iqamde miyvana, es danaSaulia,
oms politikosebi igeben, rom-
lebic Zalauflebaze arian
Seyvarebulni, aCaReben sisx-
lisRvrebs, raTa sisxliT Sei-
narCunon adamianebze batonoba.
omi dRes aris xalxisTvis po-
litikosebis mier nasroli
tyvia, sadac orive mxare agebs.
ase moiqca Tavis droze Sevar-
dnaZe, ase moiqca saakaSvilic.
urTierToba saxelmwifoebs
Soris iyo, aris da momaval-
Sic iqneba. rac Seexeba saakaS-
vilsa da putins Soris arse-
bul urTierTobas, kargia, rom
qarTvel da rus xalxebs So-
ris konfliqti ar arsebobs.
putinma araerTxel ganacxada,
araviTari Sexvedra da molapa-
rakeba ar meqneba saakaSvilTa-
no. 2008 wlis agvistos mov-
lenebis dros oon-is is uSiS-
roebis komitetis sxdomaze,
roca gadioda saqarTvelos sa-
kiTxi, maSindeli saqarTvelos
e.w. diplomatis alasanias
kiTxvaze: Tqvenma prezidentma
Cveni prezidentis zarze yur-
mili arc ki aiRoo, ruseTis
warmomadgeneli Curkini pasu-
xobs: vin daelaparakeba Tqvens
bandit da damnaSave preziden-
tso. marTalia, politika si-
carieles ver itans da yovel-
Tvis ivseba dinamiuri ZalebiT,
magram qarTul da rusul po-
litikas Soris gaCnda samedi-
cino problema, sadac profi-
laqtika ufro iafia, vidre
mkurnaloba.
politikosis mxridan nabi-
jis gadadgmis dros saWiroa
xolme politikis swori war-
marTva, ruseTis politika kav-
kasielebis mimarT yvelasTvis
cnobilia. rogorc ki Semovida
ruseTi kavkasiaSi da dadga
Tavisi rusuli Ceqma, erTi
dRiTac ki, dRevandeli dRis
CaTvliT, ar Sewyvetila kavka-
sielebis brZola damoukideb-
lobis da TavisuflebisTvis.
yvelas esmis, ruseTi didi da
Zlieri saxelmwifoa, magram es
ar niSnavs patara erebis mi-
marT, rogorc moeprianeba, ise-
Ti politika awarmoos.
ra Caidina da ras akeTebs
ruseTi CeCneTis mimarT ar
icis dasavleTma, an msofliom,
an saerTaSoriso organizaci-
ebma, Sedegi nulia. unda gavac-
nobieroT, rom kavkasielebi ar
ebrZvian rus xalxs, isini eb-
rZvian da ibrZoleben rusizmis
araswori politikis winaaRm-
deg.
__ bbaattoonnoo mmaaTTee,, ddRReess ssaaqqaarr-
TTvveellooSSii uuaammrraavvii pprroobblleemmaaaa,,
mmaaggrraamm mmTTaavvaarr ssaakkiiTTxxaadd SSaarrSSaann-
ddeellii ooqqttoommbbrriiss SSeemmddeegg bbiiZZiinnaa
iivvaanniiSSvviillii ddggaass.. aarrCCeevvnneebbii aaxx-
lloovvddeebbaa.. mmiiss kkooaalliicciiaass aarrCCeevv-
nneebbSSii ssxxvvaaddaassxxvvaannaaiirr pprroocceenn-
tteebbss uuwwiinnaasswwaarrmmeettyyvveelleebbeenn..
TTqqvveennii aazzrriiTT,, bbiiZZiinnaa iivvaanniiSSvvii-
llii ddaa mmiissii eelleeqqttoorraattii mmooaa-
xxeerrxxeebbss ggaammaarrjjvveebbaass mmooZZaallaaddee
xxeelliissuufflleebbaassTTaann,, rroommeellssaacc
aarraa ddaa aarr ssuurrss ZZaallaauufflleebbiiss
ddaaTTmmoobbaa??
_ saqarTveloSi saarCevno
maraToni, rom ityvian, kulmi-
naciisken midis. Cven, kanonieri
xelisuflebis warmomadgen-
lebs araerTxel gvaqvs gacxa-
debuli, rom yvelaferi, rac
xdeba dRes saqarTveloSi, am
saxelmwifo aparatis arsebo-
bac ki aris arakanonieri da
arakonstituciuri am sistemis
mier daniSnuli arCevnebic
aris arakanonieri. ismis kiTx-
va, icis es yvelaferi qarT-
velma xalxma? icis da mainc
midis arCevnebze?
sanam saqarTveloSi ar iq-
neba politikuri konkurenci-
is sistema da ara is modeli,
romelsac nacmoZraoba sTava-
zobs xalxs, dawynareba SeuZ-
lebeli iqneba. zogierTi la-
parakobs ruseTis modelze,
es modeli saqarTveloSi ver
gava da arc unda gavides. sa-
qarTveloSi an unda iyos
opozicia, an ara, da ara ise,
rogorc emersoni werda, par-
tiebi da seqtebi imisTvisaa
mogonili, adamianebs damouki-
debeli azrovnebis unari wa-
arTvaso... dRes saqarTvelo
dgas realuri problemis wi-
naSe. problema aris realu-
ric da mogonilic. vnaxoT,
xalxi romel problemac air-
Cevs.
is Zalaufleba, rasac
dRes saakaSvili iyenebs Tavisi
xalxis winaaRmdeg, amdenis
uflebas, saqarTvelos isto-
riaSi, arc erTi mefe ar aZ-
levda sakuTar Tavs, istoria
aravis arafers ki ar patiobs.
__ ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooSSii ssaaaakkaaSSvviillss
bbeevvrrii eeZZaaxxiiss ddiiqqttaattoorrss,, zzooggss
iiss wwmmiinnddaawwyylliiss ddiiqqttaattoorrii aarr
hhggoonniiaa,, mmaaggrraamm ddiiqqttaattoorruukkaa kkii,,
TTqqvveennii aazzrriiTT,, rraattoomm aarr rreeaaggii-
rreebbss ddaassaavvlleeTTii ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooSSii
aaRRmmoocceenneebbuull aavvttoorriittaarruull
rreeJJiimmzzee??
_ modiT gavarkvioT, risi
krizisia saqarTveloSi poli-
tikuri, socialuri, xelisuf-
lebis, Tu TviT xalxSia kri-
zisi? Cven ar viciT, miveCvieT,
Tu ase gvgonia, dasavleTs, an
msoflios aqvs Cveni vali, ra-
tom gvgonia, rom dasavleTma
unda gviSvelos? me istoriko-
si var da istoriaSi aseTi va-
lis Sesaxeb araferi msmenia.
saqme isaa, varT Tu ara mzad
samarTlianad vmarToT qveyana.
kanonierebis CarCoebSi vawar-
mooT xelisuflebis cvla?!
dasavleTisgan ras viTxovT,
ra gaakeTa evropam an adre, an
axla?! putinma ganacxada _ ev-
rokavSiri is xamia, romelmac
axali wevrebis saxiT lukmebi
moagrova, magram maT gadayla-
pas ver axerxebso... sworia am
SemTxvevaSi putini...
iranda kalandaZe
maTe cixesaSvili: maTe cixesaSvili: `CeCen xalxsxizris bodiSi ar sWirdeba~
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~
internetSi
www.saertogazeti.netSSeemmooggvviieerrTTddiiTT FACEBOOK-zze
17saerTo gazeTi#37 (221), 29.VIII-4.IX, 2012 w.
2008 wlis agvistos xuTdRian
omze, romelsac saqarTvelos xeli-
suflebis mxridan `samxreT oseTSi
konstituciis aRdgena~ ewoda Tavda-
pirvelad, xolo ruseTis mxridan
`ruseTis moqalaqeebis dacva~. bevri
iTqva da daiwera amaze. am Temaze
orive mxarem gadaiRo mxatvruli da
dokumenturi filmebi.
am ormxriv kinematografiul omSi
daibada 50-wuTiani dokumenturi
filmic, romlis saTauri iyo `omi
08. 08. 2008 muxanaTobis xelovneba~
da gavrcelda mTel msoflioSi ing-
lisur, espanur da germanul enebze
Targmnili. milionobiT mayurebelma
naxa es filmi da rogorc saqarTve-
los prezidentis danaSaulis video-
mowmem miiRo saTauri `filmi-wyevla
saakaSvilisa.~
`sameuli: saakaSvili, iuSCenko da
buSi unda CamoaxrCon!
dawyevlili iyos is qveynebi, ro-
melTac SeaiaraRes saqarTvelo Cveni
mravaltanjuli naciis gasanadgureb-
lad!
wyeuli iyos mixeil saakaSvili!!!~
_ ismis ojaxis xuTi mSvidobiani wev-
ris damkargavi, aseve mSvidobiani mcx-
ovrebis wyevla-godeba.
SeiZleba, nebismieri qveynis moqa-
laqe ar eTanxmebodes Tavisi qveynis
prezidentis politikur kurss, mag-
ram rodesac mis prezidents Seuar-
cxyofen, Tavmoyvareoba elaxeba da
raRacas mainc ityvis sapasuxod, mag-
ram ra qnas imave moqalaqem, roca mi-
si qveynis prezidents wyevlian Sinac
da gareTac? roca mkvlelad Tvlian
Sinac da gareTac?
rogorc amboben, omi saSinelebaa,
aravis indobs, Sesabamisad, arc
msxverplia ucxo, magram...
aris erTi iseTi `magram~, rasac
aranairi gamarTleba ar aqvs...
SemTxveviT, maJoritarobis erT-
erTi kandidatis amomrCevelTan Sex-
vedras Seveswari da aseve SemTxveviT
aRmovCndi muxrovanis samxedro na-
wilSi momxdari amboxisTvis Zebnili
da TianeTis gzatkecilze Catarebuli
specoperaciis dros mokluli pol-
kovnik gia krialaSvilis dedis, qal-
batoni lena nazariSvilis gverdze.
iqve patrulis mier zandukelis quCa-
ze mokluli giorgi gamcemliZis mama,
jambul gamcemliZe SevniSne meuRles-
Tan, guliko gamcemliZesTan erTad,
saqarTveloSi mravalTa msgavsad
cremlSeumSrali dedebi. odnav moSo-
rebiT, irine enuqiZis Zma gogi SevniS-
ne, kidev erTi gamwarebuli Zma da
sandro girgvlianis biZa...
lena nazariSvili: _ `me var
85 wlis yovelmxriv gamwarebuli da
ganadgurebuli deda. biWi xom momik-
les, qaliSvils usinaTlo Svili
hyavs da axla bankma bina gauyida. qma-
ri ar muSaobs, Svili ar muSaobs, ma-
mamTili 83 wlisaa, raRa unda imuSa-
os da ai, ase arian quCaSi, ai, ase
varT. ivaniSvilis gverdze ratom xar,
ratom dagexmarao da pensia damiyada-
Res _ ra vqna, ra gavakeTo! ra did
pensias me viRebdi, 120 lari mqonda,
magram Svilis sasaflaos vakeTebdi,
krediti aviRe da 66 larsRa viRebdi
_ isic damiyadaRes. mTeli dReebia
vtiri, Cemi sicocxle sicocxlea? me
miyida Svilma is adgili sasaflaoze,
me unda viyo iq da TviTon wavida mi-
waSi... ra un-
dodaT Cemi
Svilisgan! af-
xazeTi moiara,
cxinvali moia-
ra, 2008 wlis
agvistoSi sax-
lSi rom unda
C a mosuliyo ,
cx i n v alid a n
daWrilebi da
micvalebulebi gamohyavda. saakaSvili,
TviTon miwaze mixoxavda, sikvdilis
eSinoda da ai, aseTi mebrZoli xalxi
ki zogi xom daxoca, cixeSi kidev
ramdenia, vin moTvlis. ratom momikla
Svili, imitom, rom yvelaferi icoda,
rac xdeboda da moxda? _ moRalated
gamoiyvana. gasvenebaSi xalxi miTanag-
rZnobda, meubnebodnen, nu tirixar,
Seni Svili gmiri iyoo. gmiroba ar
mexareboda, Cemi Svili cocxali min-
da!
saakaSvili prezidenti ki ara, gi-
Jia, giJi!
magas moukvdes is ori Svili,
RmerTo!~
ragind `magari iyos miSa~, RmerTo,
netav, erT kacs ormagi wyevlis zid-
vis Zala Seswevs?
guliko gamcemliZe: _ `vin
esrola Cems Sv-
ils konkretu-
lad, amaze ar
maqvs saubari,
vTvli, rom saa-
kaSvilma momik-
la, radgan es
misma mowodebam
`nulovani tole-
rantoba!~ _ gamoiwvia...~
arcTu didi xnis win gavrcelda
videoCanaweri _ roza wyabelia, rome-
lic prezidentTan pirad problemebze
sasaubrod Sexvedras cdilobda, nac-
moZraobis aqtivistebma Zalis gamoye-
nebiT waiyvanes da sardafSi Caamwyv-
dies. rodesac es amba-
vi gaxmaurda, masTan
`mosafereblad~ saa-
kaSvili mivida: _
`vinc Cadgeba Cemsa da
gaWirvebul adamians
Soris, romelic mo-
sulia imisaTvis, rom
miTxras Tavisi gaWir-
veba da im Tqvenma Ta-
nasoflelebma, erTma-
orma, romlebmac moga-
yenes Seuracxyofa,
didi xania pasuxi va-
gebine _ es iqneba gak-
veTili yvelasaTvis~,
_ daamSvida didma nacionalma ,nacio-
nalebis tyvedyofili misTvis Cveuli
daulagebeli frazebiT.
sainteresoa, ra niSniT arCevs ba-
toni prezidenti gaWirvebulebs? –
faqtia, gaWirvebulad ar miaCnia yve-
la gaWirvebuli.
isic faqtia, rom srulebiT ar
anaRvlebs baton prezidents, vis
uWirs da ratom, miT umetes, Tu im
`gaWirvebuls~ samadlod gadagdebu-
li makaroni da zeTi ki ar unda, sa-
marTals eZebs...
gebelsis cnobili frazaa _
`sityva `kultura~ rom mesmis, xeli
iaraRisken~ gamirbis~. faqtobrivad,
igive emarTeba baton saakaSvils sity-
va `simarTlis~ (samarTlianobis, ka-
nonis) gagonebaze...
prezidents eSinia simarTlis!
prezidents eSinia Svilmokluli
dedebis, Svilmokluli mamebis!
prezidents eSinia 2008 wlis ag-
vistos omSi daRupuli vaJkacebis de-
debis!
diax, eSinia im mamaSvilis (asaTi-
ani) sulebis, Svili rom 2008 wlis
agvistos sasaklaosTvis gaimeta da
mama 2011 wlis 26 maisis sasaklaos-
Tvis...
diax, yvelafris eSinia prezi-
dents da gansakuTrebiT im cocxle-
bis, romelTac simarTle ician!
diax, eSinia da amitom daemala
foTSi, RvTismSoblis Sobis taZarSi
misuli agvistos omis dros daRu-
pulTa ZaZebiT Semosil dedebs da
maTTan erTad iq myof xalxs, ise ga-
iZurwa `meufis rezidenciisken~, dac-
vam araTu masTan vinmes miaxloeba, ga-
daRebis ufleba ar misca `gareul
Jurnalistebs~ da teritoriis dato-
veba moiTxova...
diax, eSinia da swored amitom, 19
ivliss, sanam stiqiiT dazaralebul
TelavSi imyofeboda prezidenti saa-
kaSvili, gamgeobis SenobaSi daamwyv-
dies Svilkvdari deda, meri marga-litaSvili da sanam prezidenti
ar wavida, ar
gamouSves. 20
ivliss isev
scada qalba-
tonma merim
prezidentTan
Sexvedra, magram
amaod, sod-is
kaxeTis sammar-
Tvelos ufro-
sis moadgilis daviT legaSvilis da-
valebiT igi Zalis gamoyenebiT Casves
manqanaSi da gaitaces _ ramdenadac
viciT, gomboridan ukan ar mibrunebu-
la prezidenti da arc aravin daus-
jia, ratom CadeqiT Cemsa da gaWirve-
bul adamians Soriso...
ramdenime dRis win TbilisSi fe-
xiT Camosul Svilmkvdar dedas (oja-
xis mtkicebiT, badri tabiZe polici-
elis cemis Sedegad gardaicvala) qe-
Tevan gadelias da mis qaliSvils
prezidentis rezidenciis misadgomebi
Zalis gamoyenebiT daatovebines. fe-
xiT eqvsdRiani msvlelobisa da oTx-
dRiani mjdomare aqciis Semdeg sameg-
reloSi iZulebiT daabrunes.
qeTevan gadelia: _ `damesien
25-30 patruli Tavis kameriT, miTx-
res, aq ukanonod zixar prezidentis
wino, unda
agiyvanoT da
wagiyvanoT sax-
lSio. uari
vuTxari, mag-
ram momkides
xeli, Cemi bav-
Svis suraTi
gamitexes~...
arc am Sem-
TxvevaSi gamo-
uRia xeli `gaWirvebulis~ gasaWiris
gamo baton prezidents, ar daswevia
rikoTze...
marTalia, es Svilmkvdari dedebis
dacinvisa da masxrad agdebis pirveli
da savaraudod (Tu xelisufleba ar
Seicvala), ukanaskneli SemTxveva ar
aris, magram mainc aravin kiTxulobs,
hyavs Tu ara `ylinjiReWia~ saakaS-
vils deda an dedismagvari vinme mainc
gulSematkivris saxiT da saqarTve-
los, RvTismSoblis garda, gulSemat-
kivari TviT qarTvelebis saxiT...
maia WeliZe
ormagi wyevla
18 saerTo gazeTi #37 (221), 29.VIII-4.IX, 2012 w.
cxeniswyals gavcdi. movli-
li ezo-karebi abrundnen da,
rogorc mudam, gulSi sixaru-
li vigrZeni. svaneTidan movdi-
var, aWaridan movdivar Tu ime-
reTidan, samegrelos danaxvaze
suli mexsneba da vfiqrob, uf-
ro ki vvaraudob _ kolxuri
sisxli Cqefs-meTqi CemSi! sai-
dan sadao, _ kiTxvacaa, magram
Cveni warsulis Semxedvares,
gana raime unda gagikvirdes?
sadac megobari poeti, jar-
ji fxoveli meubneba erTxel:
veJo, Cemo davlo, iq, CvenSi,
erTi xevia, zafxulSi wyalm-
cire, avdarSi boboqari _ WiWe
xevad ixsenieben fxovelni... Se-
ni nano megrelia da aba, hkiTxe
`WiWe~ xom pataras niSnavs!
veTanxmebi da veubnebi Zmo-
bils, rom adamianebis didi ga-
daadgilebis Semdgom vin sad
gaCerda, vin romel adgils mi-
eyina, adgilobriv komlad, mo-
saxled iqca, es saidumloeba
mxolod RmerTma uwyis! Cemi
Svili rati _ bavSvobaSi, de-
duleTSi, senakis raionis so-
fel xorSSi, zafxulSi mxo-
lod oriod kviriT avida da
dabrunebulma ukve mTlianad,
enis borZikis gareSe icoda
megruli...
tial fiqrs ra gaaCerebs...
axla im midamoebSi vimyofebiT,
sadac 90-ian wlebSi zviad
gamsaxurdias momxreebs dasdev-
dnen, sadac dawyevlili Sevar-
dnaZe yaCaRebad qceul e.w.
jars agzavnida da moZmeT
sisxls aqcevda. gaocebuli
iyo Cemi colis biZa, senakSi
mobinadre kaci _ ra xalxi
gvesxmoda Tavs, ar mgonia qar-
Tvelebi yofiliyvnen... saSine-
lebaa, magram aucileblad ga-
saxsenebelia _ moTareSeebma
samegrelos erT-erT sofelSi
rogor daades Sublze iaraRi
ojaxis ufross, mamas da ubr-
Zanes sakuTari gogo gaeupati-
urebina! amgvari uRvTo ram
TviT saqarTvelos istoriaSi
ar saxeldeba... ar yofila mte-
ri, visac amgvari ram moefiq-
rebinos!.. Semdgom, am meoce sa-
ukunis jalaTebma SevardnaZis
jariskacebma, am ubeduri ka-
cis, Tvalwin gaaupatiures co-
lic, qaliSvilic da roca
sulgamwarebulma sTxova _ ba-
rem mec momkaliTo, _ jibria-
ni zeimiT wausisines, Sen unda
icocxlo da daitanjoo!
kidev giTxraT? rao? viRa-
ca meubneba _ amgvari saSinele-
bebi ra gasaxsenebeliao! ara da
ara, megobaro da Tan Sewuxebu-
lo unda giTxraT! unda Cagi-
lursmoT tvinSi, radgan is
cxoveli, is afTari, is leSi-
Wamia vinc tvinSi Caujina ma-
Sindel molaSqre marodio-
rebs, dRes wynarad ganisvenebs
krwanisis rezidenciaSi da
kvlav cdilobs, Tavisi sisx-
lis beltebiT savse, xorcis
naglejebiT amoyorili gvam-
stomaqi, magidaze dagvidos! ki-
dev cdilobs Wkua dagvarigos,
televiziis ekranidan Tu gaze-
Tebidan (romelTaganac ramde-
nime misi sakuTrebaa!) nadiris
qSeniT iCurCulos...sworedac
man moawyo yoveli ubedureba
saqarTveloSi, ris gamoc, amJa-
mad, daRupvis pirad vimyofe-
biT! swored misi gamozrdili
mtaceblebi ilokaven saxe-tu-
Cebs moZmeTa sisxliT gawiTle-
buli enebiT! swored isini
arian _ amJamad rom gvemuqre-
bian _ Cven veraviTari arCevne-
biT ver gadagvayenebT, Cvens
aSenebulSi sxvas aravis Sevad-
gmevinebT fexso!
saakaSvilma arasgziT ar
daapatimra SevardnaZe, radgan
igi misi moZRvaria! qarTveli
xalxi rogorc Cans verasodes
naxavs samsjavroze wayenebul
SevardnaZes, rac didad samwu-
xaroa!
aba naxeT batonebo, Semom-
xedeT, momismineT kidev ra
hqnes SevardnaZe-ioselian-ki-
tovanis pirsisxlianma yaCaReb-
ma: samegrelos erT-erT so-
felSi miadgnen saxls, sadac
dambezReblis TqmiT zviadis
momxre cxovrobda. gaesaubrnen:
_ Sen zviadisti xar!
_ ra aris zviadisti ar vi-
ci, magram zviad gamsaxurdias
pativs vcem, miyvars eg kaci...
Tqvenc unda mxarSi daudgeT
da saqarTvelo gadavarCinoTo...
_ saqoneli gyavs?
_ myavs...
_ gviCvene!
_ SevardnaZis marbielebma
mozveri iqve axlos mdeloze
dakles, Semdgom am sawyal
kacs muxlebSi TiTo tyvia Ca-
ujines, xel-fexi Seukres da
TiTqmis naxevar metrze CaTx-
ril samareSi Caawvines. cocx-
al kacs miwa miayares, zed
saflavze cecxli gaaCaRes,
Samfurebi gaTales, mwvadi
aaSiSxines da miyril miwis Ti-
Teul ganZrevaze _ vaSao, aR-
muvldnen!
cocxali kaci saflavSi ix-
rCoboda da ukanasknelad ebr-
Zoda mzakvar wuTisofels!
vin iyvneno, _ SemekiTxebiT.
_ vin iyvnen da zogierTi
maTgani dResac omis veteranis
wignakiT dadis da sinamdvile-
Si xelis TiTebze moZmeT piri-
dan amoglejili oqros kbile-
bisgan gadamdnari beWedi uke-
TiaT.
meti raRa gindaT, megobre-
bo! saakaSvilis televiziam,
amas winaT `profilSi~, asaTi-
anis qali rom uZRveba xom na-
xeT dodo gugeSaSvili, xom
datkbiT misi saubriT, xom isi-
amovneT misi simRerebiT da
`blatnoi~ laparakis maneriT,
xom iangeloza, xom ikekluca?
gana sazogadoebam mZafrad
gamoxata protesti? ra Tqma
unda ara!
mxolod sofeli darCeli,
samegrelos mxolod es ulama-
zesi sofeli SeZrwunda da ki-
dev erTxel Seecada eTqva
CvenTvis am dedakacis mier Ca-
denili saSineli danaSaulis
Sesaxeb.
iqneb goCa jiqias ambavic
gavixsenoT?
dedis wis axalgazrda kaci
gamoasalma wuTisofels!
`Svili ar momikla _ deda-
Svilobaso~, _ ase emudareboda
sabralo deda yaCaR oficers,
magram sad iyo maSin smena da
gagoneba? anda sad iyo goneba?
aba naxeT, rogoraa ayirave-
buli Cveni cxovreba _ maSin-
deli sardali yaryaraSvili
Zalian xSiradaa televiziis
ekranze da amJamad romeliRac
partiasTan misula axlos _
`erovnulebi~ hqvia Turme!
xom aris SeSlili es Cveni
samyaro? goCa jiqias loginSi
Caawvines Sepyrobili yaryaraS-
vili zviad gamsaxurdias momx-
reebma...
vinmes uSvela amgvarma sama-
gieros gadaxdam?
sandro kavsaZe trabaxobda
_ samegrelos tyveobaSi Zlivs
vpove simSvideo!
aseTia dRevandeli suraTi
da ufro uaresi is gaxlavT,
rom politikur scenaze mrav-
lad ireva, mravlad moCans sa-
qarTelos damaqcevarTa, armia-
Si momsaxure personali! usir-
cxvilod miiweven karieris ki-
beebze. aq viRas ar naxavT _
mxedrionelebs, gvardielebs,
iaraRiT morbenal biW-buWebs,
romlebmac 1991-1992 wlebSi
moaxdines kanonieri xelisuf-
lebis damxoba da dRes mxo-
lod ruseTs abraleben!
saakaSvilis politikurma
fandma _ rom ruseTi gaxldaT
erTaderTi mteri Cveni qveyni-
sa, yoelive Cafarcxa da
CrdilSi moasvena. Cveni, qarT-
veli banditebi, ZmaTamkvlele-
bi, Turme arasodes arsebobd-
nen. yvelaferi sxvebma hqnes!
arada, saxadi jerac mosax-
delia!
Tavis droze, jer kidev
1980 wels, zviad gamsaxurdi-
am kargad Seiswavla da Semd-
gom gamoaqveyna `saubrebi sa-
murzayanoSi 1980 wels~. sa-
erTo dasaTaureba am Temisa
gaxldaT `samegrelos sa-
kiTxi~. zviads hqonda mTeli
cikli am saWiroboroto sa-
kiTxebis Sesaxeb. maT erqva:
`osTa sakiTxi~, `afxazeTis
sakiTxi~...
amJamad vimyofebi avtobus-
Si, mivemgzavrebi zugdidisken,
ra Tqma unda, vfiqrob `sameg-
relos sakiTxze~, radgan 2012
wels, oqtomberSi arCevnebia!
yvelam icis, rogor ibrZvis
saakaSvili _ ramenairad Seir-
gos arCevnebi. iseTi suraTia,
rom am dRevandel prezidents
Zalzed aZlevs xels mtris Se-
moWrac! raTa? imitom, rom...
did imperias xom ver moereva?
unda gaiqces! biWos, es ltol-
vilad qceuli, muStebs awevs
da mTel msoflioSi imogzau-
rebs rogorc devnili! amaT mas
SerCeba yovelive danaSauli,
rac ki Caidina!
arCevnebi Tu ise gaayalba,
rom umravlesobaSi darCa, es
ukve misi umaRlesi sasjelia!
Tu waago _ xalxma sakuTa-
ri xma rom daicvas, xom unda
gamovides quCaSi?
ityvis saakaSvili _ Seia-
raRebuli ajanyebaao da Zalas
gamoiyenebs!
amitom, aSkarad Cans, rom
amJamad samegrelos, oseTis da
afxazeTis sakiTxebi erTad un-
da Seikras da dadges _ saqar-
Tvelos gadarCenis sakiTxi!
asecaa _ batoni biZina iva-
niSvili sworedac am sakiTxis
gadawyvetas lamobs. sworedac,
Cinebulad moiqca batoni irak-
li alasania, rom zugdidSi iy-
ris kenWs.
riski aris?
_ ki, batono, didia riski,
magram, gana sxva gza da sxva
xsna arsebobs?
ra xdeba amJamad samegre-
loSi?
SeSinebulia Tu ara xalxi?
saakaSvils kvlav walenji-
xidan surs azvavdes da Camog-
rialdes TbilisSi Tu sxva
ram Caifiqra?
iqneb sulac kaxeTi airCia,
sadac setyvam da Rvarcofma
yvelaferi daaqcia?
mizezi hqondaT muSaobisa!
exmarebian da CasCiCineben _
mxolod Cven gadagarCenTo!
samegreloSi politikuri
procesebi sul sxvagvarad vi-
Tardeba _ nacionalebi xalxs
aSineben _ sul erTia mainc ga-
gakontrolebT _ vis miscemT
xmas, amisi xerxebi viciT. saar-
Cevno urnasTan yvelafers Cavi-
werT, gadagiRebT, dagafiqsi-
rebTo!
bevrma daijera, radgan
ifiqra: eseni iseTi mamaZaRle-
bi arian, amasac SeZlebeno!
amas ra eSveleba, Ze-xorci-
elma ar icis!
rogorc Cans, samegrelos
sakiTxi unda daisvas mTlianad
saqarTvelos sakiTxis konteq-
stSi!
avtobusi SeCerda abaSaSi.
aq, marjvniv, sul ramdenime ki-
lometrSi, konstantine gamsa-
xurdias saxl-muzeumia...
aq erovnul-ganmaTavisuf-
lebeli moZraoba awyobs Sekre-
bas da mxars dauWers `qarTul
ocnebas~: es didi Zala da ime-
dia!
magram...
es ambavi icis saakaSvilmac!
aravin icis, ra nabijiT
upasuxebs igi!
avtobusi daiZra. mwvaniT
Semosil ezoSi, WasTan erTi
sandomiani moxuci davinaxe da
mivamsgavse TvalisCindakargul
aCiko anTias, romelic mxedri-
onelebma zviadis momxreobis
gamo saSinlad awames... arada,
devnili zviad gamsaxurdia,
roca aCiko anTias estumra,
roca xeli gauwoda misasal-
meblad, brma moxucma jer er-
Ti xeli CamoarTva, mere orive
dauWira da davsili TvalTupe-
ebi zemoT aabruna: xom var
uCino da arasodes araferi da-
minaxavs! axla, mxolod er-
Txel ganaTda da gxedav, Sen
zviad gamsaxurdia xar!
amis gagonebaze yvela gamS-
rala! ramdenime kacs cremlmac
dausvela Tvali... gaocebuli
zviadi, Sublze eambora mo-
xucs da ise gamosula WiSkri-
dan!
sxvac momagonda: jixaSkar-
Si, zarandias ezoSi dakrZalu-
li zviadis neStis gamo, oja-
xis ufrosi dahkiTxes da bra-
li wauyenes _ ratom daTanxm-
di Sens karmidamoSi daekrZa-
laT zviadio... pasuxad ase uT-
qvams zarandias: Tqve dalocvi-
lebo _ SevardnaZisTvis yeli
rom gamoeWraT da Cems saxlSi
moetanaT, gana uars vetyodi
damarxvazeo?
umowyalod ucemiaT zaran-
dia amis gamo!
mogonebebiT daxunZluli
vuaxlovdebi zugdids.
saarCevno kampania umaRles
fazaSia!
mdgomareoba daZabulia!
samegrelos Tavisufleba
eocnebeba!
RmerTo, xeli moumarTe
saqarTvelos.
jemal davlianiZe
samegrelos Tavisufleba eocnebeba
19saerTo gazeTi#37 (221), 29.VIII-4.IX, 2012 w.
saakaSvilis nabodvaris gan-
xilva dRes iseTive uazrobaa,
rogorc Tavad misi “personis”
irgvliv saubaric. es sazoga-
doebis yuradRebis gadatanis
da gulis fxanis teqnologiu-
ri meTodia. iliam gviTxra:
“fxana qecma iciso”. Cven ki am
Wkuidan gadamdgari kacis wamo-
roSilis garCeviT “qeciT ga-
mowveul fxanas” ufro vewe-
viT, vidre “qecis gamomwvevi
mizezis” povnas da rac yvela-
fer amis ukan SeiZleba idges.
saakaSvilisgan “vefxistyaos-
nis” citirebisadmi aseTi
ltolvac swored misi CareviT
xdeba, “romelman Seqmna samya-
ro ZaliTa miT ZlieriTa”. ada-
mians Tmis Reric ar Camouvar-
deba uflis nebis gareSe. saa-
kaSvils ki axla ukve SeuRebav
Tmas ki ara, uRmerTobis gamo,
male bRuja-bRuja daaputinebs
Tmas ufali. ukve ise “gaaputi-
na”, “gamoputinda” da gamopru-
tunda, rom ruseTis SiSiT bag-
ratis taZris dangrevac ru-
sul artilerias miawera. Tur-
me gorSi tertera Zmis patro-
ni babuamisis sanukvari ocnebac
“bagratis sakaTedro taZris”
aRdgena da masze jvris aRmar-
Tva yofila?! “samagaliTo Svi-
liSvilma” ki es ocneba ausru-
la. yovelgvari garCevebis ga-
reSe, yvelafers martiv axsnas
movunaxavT, Tu mimdinare pro-
cesebsa da saakaSvilis “gapu-
tineba-gamoprutunebas” isev
bibliuri da igive “vefxistya-
osnis” kuTxiT ganvixilavT.
SoTas xelTuqmneli poemis
(romelic saakaSvils leqsi
hgonia, radgan meleqse, misi
mokle WkuiT, mxolod leqseb-
sa wers) “vefxistyaosnis” Si-
naarsic xom swored bibliis
asli da kalkia, sadac garkve-
viT weria, rom farisevel-Tal-
mudistebisa da qristes fexis-
mkvnetelebis bolo axloa! sa-
qarTveloze ki pirdapiraa naT-
qvami, rom: “ 8. vici saqmeni
Senni: aha, mogeci Sens winaSe
gaxsnili kari, da veravin Ses-
Zlebs mis daxSvas. Sen mciredi
Zala gaqvs, magram daimarxe
sityva Cemi da ar uaryav saxe-
li Cemi. 9. aha, me viqm imas,
rom satanis sakrebulodan,
maTgan, romelnic amboben iude-
velni varTo, da ar ki arian,
aramed cruoben; aha, me viqm
imas, rom movidnen da Tayvani
gcen Sens ferxTa winaSe, da
scnon, rom me Segiyvare Sen. 10.
rakiRa daimarxe sityva Cemi
moTminebisa, mec dagicav gan-
sacdelis Jams, romeli moiweva
mTel qvyanaze miwis mkvidrTa
gamosacdelad. 11. aha, moval
male. mtkiced ipyar, raca
gaqvs, raTa aravin wargtacos
Seni gvirgvini. 12. mZlevels
vyof burjad mamis Cemis taZar-
Si, da aRarasdros gava gareT,
da davawer mas saxels Cemi
RmerTisas da saxels Cemi
RmerTis qalaqis- axali ieru-
salimisas, romelic zeciT Ca-
modis Cemi RmerTisgan, da Cems
axal saxels.” ( gamocx. ioane-
si T. 3-4 ) axla imazea sauba-
ri saWiro, rom “mtkiced gvepy-
ras raca gvaqvs, raTa aravin
wargvtacos Cveni gvirgvini”-
sarwmunoeba, ena da miwa-wyali.
is, rasac saakaSvilis xeli-
sufleba mosvlis dRidan cdi-
lobs da ara is, ramden sisu-
leles wamoroSavs gankiTxvis
SiSiT Wkuidan gadamdgari saa-
kaSvili. sxva procesebi mimdi-
nareobs, Cveni yuradReba ki
sul xva Temebze gadahyavT. uw-
minduri siwmindeebisken ilt-
vis. sxva axsnac ar moeZebneba
imasac, rom eklesis karis Se-
mangreveli, eklesiebis damang-
reveli, jvrebis momTxreli da
iuneskos klturuli memkvidre-
obis nusxidan bagratis taZris
ganxrax amomRebeli saakaSvili,
jvris aRsamarTad, TavisiT
aportyda “misgan aRdgenil bag-
ratis taZarze”. axla goris
me-6 saukunis “taZris aRdgena
daiwyes”, raTa istoriul-kul-
turuli TvalsazrisiT, isic
mospon da gaanadguron. (marto-
oden simxdalis gamo “stra-
xovkis” gareSe ver gabedavda
taZris gumbaTze asvlas) “mi-
Sas aRdgenili bagratis taZa-
ri” patriarqs unda ekurTxa,
is ki ar mivida. “miSas mamobi-
li kalistrates” iq dgoma
arafers niSnavs. masonTa araer-
Ti loJis saxelic uwminduri
survilebis gamo iniRbeba sxva-
dasaxva religiuri saxelwode-
bebiT. saakaSvilis msgavsad,
isinic farisevel-mwignobarTa
memkvidreebi da mimdevrebi ari-
an. qristes uarmyofeli
mRvdelmTavrebis memkvidreeb-
sac aRsarebaSi araerTxel
uRiarebiaT, rom mesia (qriste)
ukve gamocxadebul iyo dedami-
waze. simdidris siyvarulSi,
kerpTayvanismcemlobasa da gar-
yvnil cxovrebaSi mxilebis ga-
mo ki maT ar miiRes is. saakaS-
vilica da misi ideologi
“msoflio mamebic” kargad
grZnoben, rom dRes “satanis
sakrebulodan” mosuli ideo-
logiisTvis qristes sarwmuno-
ebis Tayvaniscemis dro dgeba!
globalizacia, “singapuriza-
cia” da cru kosmopolitizmic
is bolo gafarTxalebaa, ris
Semdegac nacionaluri moZrao-
bisa da saakaSvilis, (iseve ro-
gorc msoflioSi am ideologi-
is boloc), luciferTan erTad
kvlav qvesknelSi gamomwyvdeva
iqneba. axalcixeSi rabaTis ci-
xis rekonstruqciaSi qarTveli
xalxis 19 milionis gadayras,
aznauriancisTvis iq varkvlavis
gaxsnas da “vinme mesxi meleq-
sis” gaxsenebas mxolod is
datvirTva hqonda, saakaSvils
(saqarTvelos saboloo daSlis
gegmis mixedviT) msofliosTvis
daedasturebina, rom jer erTi,
javaxeTi somxuri mxarea. meo-
rec, rom aqedan warmoSobili
“vinme mesxi meleqsec”, rogorc
“rabaTis ZirSi fexadgmuli me-
rabiSvili” TavasTavad somexi
gamodis. mosazreba moZme sam-
vel arapetianmac gaumyara:
“axalcixis rabaTis cixis
mflobelebi iyvnen qalkedonu-
ri aRmsareblobis somxebio”.
ra drosac rusTvelologebi
da enaTmecnierebi “sparsulad
naTargmanebi” ambis istoriul
adgilmdebareobaze imtvreven
Tavs, saakaSvils es ukve “da-
udgenia”_ rostevans rabaTis
cixeSi ucxovria. nestan-dare-
jani ki “am cixeSi ar mjdara,
radgan es qajeTis cixe ar
aris” Turme. iqneb sworedac
aris, radgan am mxaridan war-
moSobili arimanebi sworedac
“qajoben, eSmakoben, Winkoben da
satanistoben”, rogorc saqarT-
veloSi, ise mTels msoflio-
Si?! goridan (somxurad, `ara~)
babuamisis warmoSobisa da iq
cixe-simagris aSenebis survi-
lic ar damala. goric somxu-
ri yofila, radgan saakaSvilis
babuas ucxovria iq. saakaSvi-
lis “rusTvelologiuri wiaR-
svlebis” ganxilvisa da bibli-
uri paralelebisas ratomRac
ar aRniSnaven, rom bibliaSi
naxseneb antiqristes saxelwo-
debebidan _ luciferi, satana,
behemoTi da arimani, (igive ar-
meni) ukanaskneli pirdapir kav-
SirSia armenebTan. Tavadac da
msoflioc maT armenebs uwode-
ben. somxebi ki indoevropel,
Cv.w. aR-mde VII saukuneSi,
urartus maxloblad dasaxle-
bul tomebs daarqves qaldeve-
li Sumerebis memkvidre qarTve-
lebma. ucxo miwa-wyalze da-
saxlebul tomebs ki, (ramdena-
dac Tavisi araferi gaaCndaT),
xan qaldeur Sumerebs (saqarT-
velos), xan kabadokias, xanac
mezobel saxelmwifoebs taceb-
dnen droebiT teritoriebs,
enasa da kulturas. amgvari
mtacebluri periodi iyo “tig-
ran didis” mefobisas droebiT
Seqmnili “didi armeniis” mok-
le xana. ris Semdega, yvela sa-
xelmwifom daibruna Camosax-
lebuli armenebisgan mitacebu-
li istoriuli miwebi. somxe-
bad wodebuli armenebi ki
dRemde ararsebul “did armeni-
as” mistirian da gavleniani
lobis meSveobiT cdiloben sa-
qarTvelosTvis im istoriuli
miwa-wylis warTmevas, rac maTi
arasdros yofila da verc ve-
rasdros gaxdeba. Tavad armene-
bad wodebuli somxebi ki, rom
ara mezobeli qristiani saxel-
mwifoebis mfarveli daviT aR-
maSenebeli _ saerTod gaqre-
bodnen dedamiwidan. maT, samwu-
xarod, saqarTvelos sawinaaRm-
degod araerTxel SeukravT pi-
ri iranTan da sxva dampyrob-
Tan, raTa maTi kelganwyobis
mopovebiT, saqarTvelosTvis
warTmiaT da somxeTisTvis mie-
erTebinaT qarTuli miwebi. ami-
erkavkasiidan saqarTvelos,
azerbaijanisa da somxeTis res-
publikebis gamoyofam da sazR-
vrebis dadgenam, am armenebis am
survils garkveuli droiT
wertili dausva. Tumca arima-
nis memkvidre daSnakebs “didi
armeniis” aRdgenis sanukvar
ocnebaze fiqri arasdros Se-
uwyvetiaT. marTlmadidebluri
ruseTis gavlenis saqarTvelo-
ze Sesustebasa da aSS-s gavle-
nis gavrcelebaze yvelaze xel-
sayreli saSualeba ki somxuri
lobis meSveobiT (rusulisac
da amerikulisac) xelisufle-
baSi 90-iani wlebidan araqarT-
veli da armenuli fesvebis
adamianTa moyvana unda gamxda-
riyo. makkeinis fondis dafinan-
sebul “feradovani revoluci-
ebis” maisurebze “kmara” da
“poras” garda, yirgizeTs, uk-
rainas, saqarTvelos, azerbai-
janisa da ruseTis gaswvriv
ewera: “to be done” - “unda
Sesruldes”. ar ewera mxolod
armenia. anu armeniaSi es revo-
lucia ar igegmeboda. antiqris-
tes taxtis gasamzadeblad gan-
kuTvnili globalizaciis pro-
cesic, yvela tradciuli re-
ligiis, gansakuTrebiT ki fari-
sevel-mwignobarTaTvis miuRe-
bel marTlmadideblobasTan br-
Zolas rom gulisxmobs _ dRes
dafaruli aRaraa. iranTan mo-
salodneli eskalaciis piro-
bebSi ki gamorcxuli araa, (di-
di xnis ocnebis axdenis gamo),
armenebi ruseTis zurgiT da
maTi interesebisTvis axlac
Zvel mokavSires _ irans gau-
rigdnen. qarTuli saxelmwifo-
ebriobis gauqmebis interesiT
(mefis ruseTis sasargeblod),
moqmedebda generali lazarevi
(lazariani), rodesac saqarTve-
los samefos gauqmebaSi aqtiur
monawileobas piradad Rebu-
lobda. ukanaskneli qarTveli
dedoflis gaupatiurebac ki
scada. gmirma dedofalma ki is
xanjalze wamoago. samwuxaroa,
rom saqarTveloSi dabadebuli
da gazrdili armenuli warmo-
Sobis adamianebi dRemde ver
acnobiereben imas, rom saqarT-
velo maTi samSoblocaa da
ararsebul “did armeniaze” oc-
nebis axdenis mizniT saqarTve-
losTvis zurgSi laxvaris Ca-
cema yovelTvis sazianod ub-
rundebaT. ukve gacxadebuli
bolo Jamis araerTi niSnebisas
ki vis, Tu ara “arimanis memk-
vidreebs” unda wamoewyoT
RvTismSoblis wilxvedri sa-
qarTvelos winaaRmdeg mzakvro-
ba. me-11 saukunis Semdgom, bi-
zantiis mier gauqmebul “arme-
niasac” eCmiadinis sapatriarqo
marTavda. religiis antisaxel-
mwifoebrivi kanonis miRebiT
(saakaSvilisgan qarTuli samo-
ciqulo eklesiis gavlenis Se-
sustebis SemTxvevaSi), swored
eCmiaZinis sapatriarqo aiRebs
saakaSvilis mier danawevrebu-
li da savaraudod, somxeTisT-
vis mierTebuli javaxeTis mar-
Tvasac Tavze. amasobaSi ki qu-
TaisSi gadatanili “meore de-
daqalaqiT”, gza im Tbilisiske-
nac exsnebaT, romlis aRebac
armenebma jer kidev wina sauku-
nis dasawyisSi scades. “vinme
mesxi meleqsis” gaxsenebac da
rabaTis cixis aRdgenac, swo-
red eSmakeulTa mociqulebis,
nacionalebis saboloo gafar-
Txalebas unda niSnavdes. rac
iseve, rogorc bibliaSi dawe-
rili yvela sxva winaswarmety-
veleba, bibliuri qaldeveli
eris saboloo gamarjvebiT das-
ruldeba. “gamoprutinebuli”
da putinis landze SeSinebuli
saakaSvili ki ufalma ukve iseT
dReSi Caagdo, rom taZris Tav-
ze jvaric Tavisi xeliT aRa-
marTvina. “jvari romaelebmac
aRmarTes” da zed farisevel-
mwignobar mRdelmTavarTa
moTxovniT qristec avnes. am sa-
Sinel codvas ki maTi STamomav-
lobebi Seewira da dResac ewi-
reba. saakaSvilsa da mis mamo-
bil mRvdelmTavrebs awi ve-
Rarc taZrebis aRdgena (anu ga-
nadgureba) uSveliT da veRarc
muxlCoqviT saqarTvelos yvela
taZris Semovla.. aTonis mTida-
nac maxaTas mTaze dasabrZaneb-
lad da saqarTvelos gadasarCe-
nad “RvTismSoblis portaitis
(karibWis) xats” elis sruli-
ad saqarTvelo. Cveni qveyana
dResac ki im “or zRvas Sua sa-
omari leloa”, romelzec male
beTlemis (da ara sxva) varskv-
lavi gabrwyindeba, radgan `da-
weril ars, rom bWeni jojoxe-
Tisani ver erodian mas”.
baia amaSukeli
`sad (w)aiyvan sadaursa...~
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~
internetSi
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xelisuflebas mxolod axla gaax-
senda, rom qveyanaSi totaluri umu-
Sevrobaa. dasaqmebis saministroc ki
Seiqmnes 6 mln. biujetiT, magram sa-
idan dafinansdeba axali saministro
_ ucnobia. radganac saxelmwifo xa-
zinas am mizniT Tanxebi gamoyofili
ar aqvs.
ssaammiinniissttrrooss mmuuSSaaoobbaa
iiZZuulleebbiiTT ddaaiiwwyyoo
dasaqmebis saministros droulad
unda eCvenebina Sedegebi. sxva rom ve-
raferi moifiqres `nacebis mier~ da-
Sinebul mcire biznessa da mewarmeebs
miadgnen. indmewarmeebs aiZuleben sa-
muSaod miiRon dausaqmeblebi.
rogorc `Tavisufal asociaciaTa
kavSirSi~ acxadeben, gamokvlevebiT
cxadi xdeba, Tu ra mZime SromiT da
moralur pirobebSi uxdebaT muSaoba
iZulebiT Tavsmoxveulebs. maT sjian
umniSvenolo darRvevebisaTvis (5-wT-
iani dagvianeba, adre wasvla). am dar-
RvevebisaTvis xelfasebidan aWrian
Tanxebs. maTTvis gaigivebulia arasa-
patio da sapatio gacdenebi. axalmo-
sulebs sxva TanamSromlebisagan gan-
sxvavebiT ar unazRaureben samuSao
saaTebis gadametebiT namuSevars. igi-
ve xdeba dasvenebis (albaT, momaval-
Si sadResaswaulo) dReebSi namuSeva-
ris anazRaurebis drosac. axladda-
saqmebulze Tanxis dazogvis mizniT
ufrosoba maT civ, bnel, nestian
oTaxebSi amuSavebs. ZiriTad dasaqme-
bulebTan SedarebiT problemebia
xelfasis, namuSevrebis anazRaureba-
Sic. axladdasaqmebuls odnav preten-
ziis gamoTqmis SemTxvevaSi, preten-
ziuls pasuxoben _ ar mogwons, wa-
di.
iZulebiT Tavsmoxveul dasaqmebu-
lebs xelisuflebis SiSiT ufrosoba
pirdapir ver uTiTebs karisken, mag-
ram iseT pirobebs uqmnian, rom Tvi-
Ton daweron gancxadeba gaTavisuf-
lebaze.
nacebi dausaqmeblobaze `gulSe-
moyrilni~ saubroben. Tumca arasam-
Tavroboebis SekiTxvas, Tu ra bedi
eliT maT dasaqmebas, dumiliT uvli-
an gverds.
maTi damokidebuleba kargad war-
moCinda, rodesac `umuSevarTa kav-
Sirma~ gancxadeba Seitana. csko-Si
(sareferendumo) raTa miecaT misTvis
ufleba CaetarebinaT referendumi
umuSevarTaTvis Semweobis gacemis
aucileblobis Taobaze. vard-eklos-
nebiT dakompleqtebulma cskom uariT
upasuxa _`sareferendumo sakiTxi
(umuSevarTaTvis Semweobis gacema)
saxelmwifoebrivi mniSvnelobis sa-
kiTxs ar warmoadgenso.
uuccxxooeelleebbss aassaaqqmmeebbeenn
qqaarrTTvveelleebbii
ssaazzRRvvaarrggaarreeTT
lluukkmmaa-ppuurriiss
ssaaSSoovvnneellaadd ggaarrbbiiaann
maSin, rodesac qveyanaSi masobri-
vi umuSevrobaa, Sromisunariani axal-
gazrdobis, specialistebis didi na-
wili sazRvargareT garbis. saakaS-
vils saeWvo garigebebis safuZvelze
CvenSi grandiozul mniSvnelobebs
ucxour kompaniebs awarmoebinebs. ma-
Tac samuSaod Tavisi xalxi Camoh-
yavT. ar arsebobs araviTari winapi-
roba, SeTanxmeba adgilobrivebis da-
saqmebisa.
`Tbilisis iusticiis saxls~ Ci-
nuri kompania `xuan Cuanlimited kom-
pani~ aSenebs. Camosulia 150 Cineli.
erT amdens kidev elodebian. saqarT-
velos 50 moqalaqea dasaqmebuli. Ci-
nel muSas 70 lars uxdian. qarTvels
30. reestrSi ar arsebobs araviTari
informacia mSeneblobis Sesaxeb. mi-
uRwevelia informacia imis Taobaze,
Tu ra gziT moipova Cinurma kompani-
am mSeneblobis ufleba. Tbilisis Se-
movliTi gzis tenderi kompania `inJ-
mSenma~ mopova. man samuSaoebis Sesas-
ruleblad Camoiyvana `CineTis rkinig-
zis 23-e mudmivmoqmedi filiali~. mas
Camohyva Cineli muSaxelic. samuSao-
ebs mxolod 17 qarTveli (muSa) as-
rulebs. qarTvelebs mZime samuSao pi-
robebi aqvT. Cinelis yoveldRiuri
xelfasi 80 laria, Cveni moqalaqisa
ki 23. arakvalificiurad nawarmoebi
samuSaoebis gamo gvirabi 2-jer Camo-
ingra. Cinuri kompaniis Sesaxeb `inJ-
mSenSi~ informacias mkacrad asaidum-
loeben.
quTaisSi parlamentis Senobas, Zi-
riTadad, espanelebi aSenebdnen da
aSeneben, maTTan SedarebiT mcire-
ricxovan qarTvel muSebs gacilebiT
naklebi xelfasebi da mZime samuSao
aqvT. rusTavis metalurgiul qarxa-
naSic muSa-xelSi SeiniSneba indoel-
Ta siWarbe. iqac qarTvelebi naklebad
anazRaurebadi xalxia.
umuSevarTa kavSiris ganmartebiT,
xelisufleba yovelives saqmis kurs-
Sia. Tavis droze mas problemaze re-
agireba ar mouxdenia. magram axla
xom arCevnebia kars momdgari?!
zaza bilixoZe
`o, sporto, Sen moiTxov umaRles
zneobriobas, samarTlianobas, moralur
siwmindes, mousyidvelobas~. es sityvebi
frangma mweralma da sazogado moRawem
pier de vebertenma, Tanamedrove olimpi-
uri TamaSebis aRdgenis iniciatorma
1912 wels, zustad 100 wlis win dawe-
ra. im dros igi ukve saerTaSoriso
olimpiuri komitetis prezidenti iyo.
vebertinis `wigni~ dResac saxelmZRvane-
loa msoflio olimpiur moZraobaSi.
mcire ritorikuli eqskursi imisT-
vis dagvWirda, rom saubedurod, dRes
saqarTveloSi yvelaferi politizire-
bulia, maT Soris sporti da olimpiu-
ri moZraoba. amis dasturad Tundac
wlevandeli olimpiuri TamaSebic ga-
modgeba. qveynis nakrebis wevrs jer agi-
neben, asparezobis Semdeg ki fizikur an-
gariSsworebasac upireben. Tanac igive
olimpiuri delegaciis wevrebi! saube-
durod, saqarTvelos olimpiuri komi-
tetis prezidenti didxans dumda, vi-
Tomc araferi momxdariyos, gaakeTa ko-
mentari, magram Tavad sportsmens dasdo
brali SantaJSi! `iq araferi gansakuT-
rebuli ar momxdarao~, _ esec Tqva.
rodesac sportsmeni, olimpiuri nak-
rebis wevri, TamaSebis aralegalurad,
ucxoeli megobris daxmarebiT tovebs,
farTo ganxilvis sagani unda yofiliyo,
rigiTi movlena namdvilad ar aris! ase
iqneboda nebismier civilizebul qveyana-
Si, magram, samwuxarod, mxolod CvenTan
ara!
qveynis prezidentmac axsena london-
Si momxdari faqti, magram sportsmeni
masxarad aigdo. samarTliania? vfiq-
robT, namdvilad ara. `sportis ganviTa-
reba da cxovrebis jansaRi wesis damk-
vidreba qarTuli saxelmwifos erT-er-
Ti mTavari prioritetia da ase iqneba
momavalSic~. es mixeil
saakaSvilis sityvebia,
romelic 2008 wels
pekinis olimpiadis mo-
nawileebTan Sexvedri-
sas gaakeTa sakuTar re-
zidenciaSi. sinamdvile-
Si ra xdeba saqarTve-
loSi. xelisufleba sa-
kuTari politikuri
miznebisTvis iyenebs
sportsmenebs. saubedu-
rod arc sakuTari
xalxis winaaRmdeg ga-
moyenebas erideba, im
sportsmenebisa, romle-
bic mosaxleobis kumirebi unda yofi-
liyvnen sportul arenaze da ara poli-
tikur muSti-krivSi.
samtrediaSi, rogorc cnobilia, de-
putatobis maJoritar kandidatad `qar-
Tuli ocnebidan~ saxelovani qarTveli
fexburTeli kaxi kalaZea dasaxelebuli,
romelic Tavis mSobliur qalaqSi wina-
saarCevno Sexvedrebs marTavs. mis wina-
aRmdeg Tbilisidan `desanti~ gaemgzavra
saqarTvelos sportis ministris lado
varZelaSvilis meTaurobiT. rogorc Se-
vityveT, `zonder-desantebis~ razmi Zi-
riTadad sportsmenebiT aris dakompleq-
tebuli arSemdgari aTletebiT, visac
sportul asparezze Tavi verafriT ga-
moiCina. ra mizeziT unda daupirispir-
des fizikurad sxvadasxva saxeobis
sportsmenebi erTmaneTs? Suri? albaT,
gamoricxuli araferia, magram samwuxa-
rod, mTavari mizezi politikaa. ki, ba-
tono, dauWire mxari visac gsurs, mag-
ram fizikurad gauswordes oponents
vfiqrob, sportsmenis mxridan sakuTar
xalxze xelis aRmarTva amoraluria.
kidev erTi faqti, romelic sazoga-
doebisTvis gaxda cnobili. erT-erTi
zonderis mama kanonieri qurdiao, gaax-
maures lado varZelaSvilma ki es Cveu-
lebriv faqtad miiRo, mere ra moxdao,
Tqva. es maSin, rodesac rigiT
qarTvelebs ubralod, qurdebTan
nacnobobis mizeziT zogs iWeren,
zogs ki samsaxuridan aTavisuf-
leben. gavixsenoT Tundac qarT-
veli fexburTeli, erovnuli nak-
rebis wevri giorgi demetraZe,
gana nacnobobisTvis ar ixdis
sasjels? sportis ministri ki
kriminalebis meSveobiT cdilobs
miznebis miRwevas. gana ormagi
standarti ar aris, rodesac krimina-
lebTan mebrZoli xelisuflebis maRal-
Cinosani maTTan aris dakavSirebuli?
Tumca amas vin dagidevT, win arCevnebia!
dro ki ulmoblad garbis. sporti,
faqtobrivad, gaeros rolSia. dRes fu-
Wad gafantuli dro xval-zeg Segvaxse-
nebs Tavs, rodesac saerTaSoriso sarbi-
elze is mokrZalebuli Sedegebic sanat-
reli gagvixdeba. xom ar jobia sportis
mesveurebma TavianT saqmes mixedon, xo-
lo saarCevno kompaniaSi monawileobis
asparezi politikosebs dauTmon? albaT,
gacilebiT ukeTesi iqneba.
kidev erTi politikuri tendencia,
romelic damkvidrda qarTul sportSi.
bolo wlebSi erTgvar modad iqca
ucxoeli mwvrTnelebis mowveva, TviT
nakreb gundebSic. gasakviri TiTqos ara-
feria, radgan msoflio praqtikaSia le-
gionerebis yola gundebSi. mTavaria, ma-
Ti kvalifikacia. Tumca swored maT
profesionalizmSia problema. saubedu-
rod, qarTveli specialistebisadmi un-
doblobas kvlav politikur Sexedule-
bebTan, an federaciebis xelmZRvaneleb-
Tan dapirispirebasTan mivyevarT. sxvas
ras unda davabraloT SoTa xabarelis
ganTavisufleba da mis magivrad avstri-
elis mowveva saqarTvelos nakrebSi? Se-
vadaroT am ori specialistebis Sedege-
bi. dabolos, albaT kargi iqneba, Tu is
aTletebi, romlebic zonderbrigadebSi
arian, dafiqrdnen TavianT saqcielze da
sakuTari xalxis siyvaruli sportul
sarbielze moipovon. Torem xelisufle-
ba Seicvleba da maT is Savi laqa, ro-
melsac Tavad icxeben, saSviliSvilod
darCebaT.
gia burduli
iZulebiT dasaqmeba _ucxoelebs samsaxurSi
Rebuloben, qarTvelebisazRvargareT garbian
sporti da politika
21saerTo gazeTi#37 (221), 29.VIII-4.IX, 2012 w.
mas dRemde zaravs samSo-
biaro saxlis danaxva. gulm-
Svidad verc Cvilebs uyu-
rebs, radgan yvelaze mware
xvedri ergo amqveynad _ Svi-
lis uarmyofeli deda hqvia.
Tumca, simarTle rom iTqvas,
misTvis arc araferi ukiT-
xavT, imis Rirsadac ki ar Ca-
uTvliaT, rom arCevanis uf-
leba miecaT: wyevla-krulviT
ar iRleboda gakapasebuli
deda, pirgamexebuli idga ma-
ma, warbSekruli da amrezili
iyo axalgaTxovili ufrosi
daiko _ ar arsebobda adamia-
ni, romelic dalis TanaugrZ-
nobda; ara, SeiZleba arsebob-
da kidec, magram daxmarebas
ver moaxerxebda _ ver Secv-
lida ganaCens, romelic Seu-
racxyofilma ojaxma Tavis
Svilsa da axladdabadebul
SviliSvils gamoutana, gana-
Ceni ki ulmobeli iyo: dedas
ar hqonda dedobis ufleba,
`ukanono~ bavSvs ki _ si-
cocxlis, magram vinaidan sak-
maod gvian Seityves misi ar-
sebobis Sesaxeb da mainc mo-
evlina qveyanas, dabadebisTa-
nave unda moekveTaT.
mokveTes kidec _ uSvilo
wyvilebs ra gamolevs da ax-
lac gamoCnda keTili xalxi,
romelmac biWuna iSvila.
im dRidan damTavrda da-
lisTvis sicocxle da daiwyo
arseboba. roca mkerdSi mowo-
lilma rZem Seawuxa da tki-
vili igrZno, mixvda, rogor
unda epovna gamosavali: tki-
vils ki ar unda gaqceoda,
aramed piriqiT, unda eZebna;
fizikur tanjvas misi sxeuli
unda ewamebina, moralurs ki
_ suli, iqneb ase mainc dae-
saja sakuTari Tavi. TviTmkv-
leloba? sasowarkveTilma
amazec ifiqra, magram, Turme.
sikvdili zedmeti fufuneba
iyo misTvis. erTxel, roca
xmamaRla wamoscda, _ meti
aRar SemiZlia, Tavs moviklav
da davisvenebo, _ dedam gve-
liviT Causisina, _ jer vali
gadaixade da mere rogorc
genebos, ise moiqecio. _ ra
valze laparakob? _ gaognda
dali _ vali, romelic oja-
xisa gmarTebs. Cven araferi
dagviklia SenTvis. mTelma
sofelma icis, rom patiosani
mSoblebis patiosani Svili
xar. ho, xalxis TvalSi pati-
osani xar, yvelanairad veca-
deT, aravis gaego Seni unamu-
sobis ambavi da Tavi ar mog-
vWroda. RmerTma xom icis,
amas ramdeni Zalisxmeva das-
Wirda, TiTqmis mTeli wliT
gadavixveweT aqedan, mucelga-
berili rom aravis daenaxe.
meti ra gveqna? ki, Svilis ma-
givrad gvelis wiwili gag-
zardeT, magram xalxis Tval-
Si jer isev wesieri qali
xar; hoda, Seifere: gaTxovdi,
ojaxi Seqmeni, qmar-Svils em-
saxure! sikvdilis ufleba
rom ara gaqvs, ar ici? Sen ki
daisveneb, magram Cven ra
wyalSi gadavvardeT? sofels
pirs ver aukrav, aTas rames
ityvian da ise gagvaSaveben,
mtkvaric ver gagvrecxavs.
ase da amgvarad, dali, ro-
melsac jer sikvdilis ufle-
ba ar hqonda, valis gadaxdas
Seudga: upirveles yovlisa,
aguzguzebul buxarSi SeuZa-
xa im kacis fotoebi, rome-
lic siyvaruls eficeboda da
mere fexmZime miatova, dawva
dRiuri _ 17 wlis gulubry-
vilo gogos gulis mesaidum-
le, arnaxuli nebisyofa gamo-
iCina da studentic gaxda...
Tbiliss dalis warsu-
lisTvis ar ecala; arc ara-
feri ukvirda da arc arafe-
ri edardeboda. arc axladga-
momcxvar students hqonda
imis xalisi, rom Tbiliselo-
ba Seergo, megobrebi SeeZina
da galaRebuliyo _ naTesave-
bis mkacri zedamxedvelobis
qveS cxovrobda, TavauReblad
mecadineobda da verc ki amC-
nevda, rogor garboda dro.
TvalisdaxamxamebaSi CaTav-
da studentoba _ `vali~ na-
wilobriv gadaxdili iyo,
erT mSvenier dRes ki mTlia-
nad gadaxdis Jamic dadga _
axla ojaxis mZime uReli un-
da daedga da erTgulad eta-
rebina. mSoblebis mier gamo-
Zebnil saqmros cudi namdvi-
lad ar eTqmoda, Tumca dali
arc cdila mis kargad gacno-
bas, xmac ar amouRia, ise Se-
egua beds _ arc axla hqonda
arCevanis ufle-
ba...
axalgazrdebi
TbilisSi dasaxl-
dnen da dali Cve-
ulebriv diasax-
lisad, meuRled
iqca, yoveldRiu-
ri sazrunaviT
datvirTuls, Ti-
Tqos, arc arafe-
ri uxaroda da
arc araferi sw-
yinda. qmars Tavi-
dan, cota ar
iyos, ukvirda mi-
si indeferentu-
loba, mere ki Se-
eCvia, moswonda
kidec colis upretenzio xa-
siaTi.
qaliSvilis SeZenam gamoa-
cocxla qali, TvalebSi sxi-
vi Caudga da fanatikos de-
dad iqca. xom daamtkica, rom
samagaliTo meuRle da dia-
saxlisi iyo, axla isic unda
daemtkicebina, rom samagali-
To dedoba SeeZlo _ SeZlo
kidec: eka ise izrdeboda, da-
lisagan damaluli araferi
hqonia. sanukvari
ocneba _ Svils
marto mSobeli ki
ara, ufrosi mego-
bari daenaxa masSi
_ asrulebuli iyo.
swored ase warmo-
edgina dedaSvilo-
ba da is, rac odes-
Rac Tavad mas ar
eRirsa, axla rea-
lobad iqca.
erT mSvenier
dRes didis ambiT
miaxara ekam, _
xval, Cems dabade-
bis dReze, `isic~
iqnebao. RamiT mo-
usvenrad eZina da-
lis, erTi suli
hqonda, Tavisi 16 wlis gogo-
nas rCeuli gaecno. saRamos,
roca stumrebi Seikribnen da
eka maRal, Savgvreman biWs Se-
mouZRva, qals ferma gadahk-
ra. _ gaicani, es goCaa, _
uTxra Svilma. biWs Tvalebi
ucinoda. imdenad axlobeli
iyo es iribad gaWrili Wre-
li Tvalebi, rom dalis Tav-
bru daexva. _ sasiamovnoa,
mobrZandiT. _ Caibutbuta
nirwamxdarma, goCas xeli Ca-
moarTva, mirTmeuli Taiguli
gulze miixuta da qmars ise
gadaxeda, TiTqos misgan elo-
da Svelas. stumrebi gvian
daiSalnen. daretianebuli
alagebda sufras da Tvalwin
goCa edga _ maRali, moxdeni-
li, mocinari TvalebiT. mtan-
jvel molodinSi gairbina
ramdenime dRem; grZnobda,
rom fexqveS miwa ecleboda
da realobis SegrZnebas hkar-
gavda. veravis gaando Tavisi
gasaWiri, mxolod is moaxer-
xa, rom Svils yvelaferi
dawvrilebiT gamohkiTxa bi-
Wis Sesaxeb. ekas monayolma
uaresad aaforiaqa: goCa eqvsi
wliT ufrosi iyo mis Svil-
ze, instituti ukve daemTav-
rebina, arcTu axalgazrda
mSoblebi hyavda. _ da-Zma
hyavs? _ xavss eWideboda da-
li. _ ara, dediserTaa, gvian
SeeZinaT da mSoblebi zed
hyvebian, _ miiRo pasuxi. mTa-
vari ki win iyo: ekas da go-
Cas daqorwineba surdaT. _ ai,
Cavabareb wels universitet-
Si da maSinve xels movawerT.
de, rom icode, rogor miy-
vars; naxav, Tqvenc aucileb-
lad SegiyvardebaT... _ WikWi-
kebda saxegabrwyinebuli go-
go. aq ki qals moTminebis Za-
fi gauwyda da sabolood um-
tyuna nervebma. _ Sen amas ar
izam, arasodes gaxdebi misi
coli! _ daukivla Svils da
Tavis oTaxSi Seketva daapi-
ra, magram ekam ar misca amis
saSualeba, fexdafex mihyva
da axsna-ganmarteba mosTxova.
ra unda aexsna ubedur
qals? rogor unda moeyola
Zveli istoria, romlis
dawyebasac amaod cdilobda
amdeni xani?
albaT, zedmetia imis gad-
mocema, ra scenebi imarTeboda
ojaxSi: erTi mxriv, eka, ro-
melsac ver aexsna dedis mo-
ulodneli gajiqebis mizezi,
meore mxriv ki sasowarkveTi-
li, gansjis unardakarguli
qali, romelmac aRar icoda,
SvilisTvis rogor aeridebina
amxela codva _ sakuTar Zma-
ze daqorwineba. dalis saqci-
eli qmarsac ukvirda, arafe-
ri hqonda goCas sawinaaRmde-
go, mis mSoblebsac icnobda
Soridan da pativsacem xal-
xad miaCnda, ver gaego, ra ar
moswonda dalis...
msgavsi tragediebis xil-
vas teleserialebSi miveCvi-
eT, Torem cxovrebaSi RmerT-
ma yvela dagvifaros amisagan!
aq verc `gadarTav~ da verc
`gamorTav~, erTaderTi arxia
da arc `stopkadri~ arsebobs
_ sicrueze agebuli cxovre-
ba ingreva da nangrevebis qveS
hyvebi, fasadis Selamazeba
aRarafers Svelis... dalim,
sxva gamosavali rom ver mo-
naxa, goCas mSoblebs miakiTxa
_ midioda da fexebi ukan
rCeboda; icoda, aRsareba un-
da eTqva _ sxvagvarad ver ax-
snida Tavis uars. sabednie-
rod, goCa Sin ar daxvda. za-
ri dareka. kari gauRes. da-
lim scada Tavis xelSi ayva-
na, magram es mis Zalebs aRe-
mateboda da rogorc ki mas-
pinZlebis saTno saxeebs Sexe-
da, Segubebulma cremlebma
gza ipoves... gaognebuli
col-qmari didxans awynareb-
da isterikaSi Cavardnil
qals, mere ki misi akankale-
buli xmiT monaTxrobi ambavi
moismines... axla ukve sami sa-
sowarkveTili adamiani ijda
sastumro oTaxSi. axalgazr-
debisTvis simarTlis Tqma
iyo saWiro, ra reaqcia eqne-
bodaT maT? Tanac, goCam ar
icoda, rom naSvilebi iyo,
rogor Sexvdeboda am ambavs?
viTom iolia, dakargo Seyva-
rebuli da imavdroulad ga-
acnobiero, rom biologiuri
mSoblebi sxva gyavs, gamzrde-
li ki _ sxva?
amboben, gamouvali mdgoma-
reoba ar arsebobso. ar vici,
SeiZleba asec iyos; gaaCnia,
vin ras miiCnevs gamosavlad
da radganac amdeni azria,
ramdeni adamianicaa, Tqveni ne-
barTviT, am istorias ar da-
vasruleb. albaT, TiToeuli
Tqvengani sakuTari bunebidan
gamomdinare warmoidgens fi-
nals. me ki, Cemda Tavad, vi-
survebdi, rom arasodes aR-
movCeniliyaviT msgavs situa-
ciaSi da warsulis nangreveb-
Si ar CavmarxuliyaviT. sam-
wuxarod, bevri qali izia-
rebs dalis beds _ nuravis
ganvsjiT! ubralod, gvaxsov-
des, rom gugulis bude mudam
carielia da misi bartyebi
mudam sxvis budeSi iCekebian.
gugulisTvis es Cveulebrivi
movlenaa, adamianisTvis ki...
iqneb, sanam umweo Cvilebs
`kanonierad~ da `ukanonod~
davyofdeT, imazedac davfiq-
rebuliyaviT, gvaqvs ki adami-
anebis ase daxarisxebis uf-
leba?
nino sixaruliZe
gugulis bude mudam carielia...
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gardatexis asakSi organizm-
Si mimdinare rTuli anatomiur-
funqciuri cvlilebebi adekva-
turad mozardis fsiqoemociur
sferozec isaxeba. am asakSi isi-
ni yvelaze mwvaved ganicdian
imas, rom sakuTari miswrafebe-
bi harmoniulad ver erwymis re-
alobas. dauZleveli winaaRmde-
gobani maTSi gardatexis asakis
nevrozis winapirobas qmnis.
fsiqoemociuri Zvrebi gansakuT-
rebuli simwvaviT mimdinareobs
dediserTa bavSvebSi _ maTTvis
lamis tragediis tolfasia
imis aRmoCena, rom ojaxSi er-
TaderTni da ganumeorebelni,
megobarTa Soris aseTive ad-
gils ver imkvidreben.
damaxasiaTebeli niSnebi
yvelaze xSirad es zogadi
sisuste, anu asTeniuri sindro-
mia, romelic gonebrivi da fi-
zikuri Sromisas momatebul
daRlilobaSi, fizikuri da
fsiqikuri diskomfortis mud-
miv SegrZnebaSi gamoixateba.
asTeniuri sindromi
mozardebs, yovelgvari mize-
zis gareSe, guneba xSirad da
swrafad ecvlebaT, mtirala gu-
neba-ganwyobileba ueflebaT, uq-
veiTdebaT Sromis unari da yu-
radRebis koncentracia. zogni
mexsierebis daqveiTebasac uCivi-
an. Sesabamisad, klebulobs sko-
laSi akademiuri moswrebis do-
ne, rac TviTdamkvidrebis mo-
surne mozards kidev ufro ur-
Tulebs mdgomareobas _ masSi
badebs pesimizmis, arasrulfa-
sovnebis SegrZnebas, urTulebs
TanatolebTan da axloblebTan
urTierTobebs.
Tavis tkivili
bevri mozardi uCivis Tavis
tkivils, romelic mudmiv xasi-
aTs atarebs da garemo faqto-
rebzea damokidebuli. igi gans-
xvavebuli lokalizaciisaa:
Subli, warbi, kefa, mTeli Tavi.
tkivili, xasiaTis mixedviT,
aris wneviTi, mopulsire da
mqaCavi.
momatebuli mgrZnobeloba
garemo gamRizianeblebis mimarT
mozardebi Znelad itanen
xmaurs, skolis zari usiamovno
SegrZnebebs iwvevs, zedmet
mgrZnobelobas amJRavneben si-
naTlis, sunis, Sexebisadmi. am
faqtorTa gavleniT aramarto
Tavis tkivili uZlierdebaT,
aramed ofliandebian da sisxl-
ZarRvovani reaqciebi uviTarde-
baT.
Zilis darRveva
Zilis dro mokldeba da igi
mSfoTvare xdeba. erTni swra-
fad iZineben, magram maleve iR-
viZeben da uZiloba awuxebT, me-
oreni ki, piriqiT, Znelad iZi-
neben da gamouZineblebi dgebian.
dRis pirvel naxevarSi moTen-
Tilebi arian da mxolod meore
naxevarSi axerxeben mobilize-
bas. bevri maTgani ZilSi lapa-
rakobs, Tumca gamoRviZebis Sem-
deg ar axsovT, raze saubrobd-
nen.
xSiria ZilSi siaruli, zo-
gi maTgani dgeba, magidaze niv-
Tebs alagebs, CanTaSi awyobs,
rTul moZraobebs asrulebs,
zogierTs aReniSneba RamiT Sar-
dis Seukavebloba, rac gansa-
kuTrebiT amZimebs isedac arc-
Tu saxarbieli mdgomareobas.
gulssixlZarRovani
moSlilobani
gardatexis asakSi xSiria
gulis areSi tkivili, arcTu
iSviaTad, aRmocenebuli tkivi-
li marTlac emTxveva funqciur
cvlilebebs gulis areSi _ say-
mawvlo ariTmias, xSirdeba ma-
jiscema, gulSi imatebs funqci-
uri xmauri, arteriuli wneva
xSirad icvleba, yovelive iw-
vevs gangaSis SegrZnebas da
qmnis imis niadags, rom mozards
sikvdilis an sxva saxis fobia
uCndeba. am dros mSoblebi gan-
sakuTrebiT frTxilad unda iy-
vnen da mozardis TandaswrebiT
kategoriulad ar isaubron gu-
lis daavadebebze da am mizeziT
gamowveul sikvdilze.
cvlilebebi saWmlis
momnelebel sistemaSi
xSiria saWmlis momnelebe-
li traqtis sekretoruli da
motoruli funqciis darRveve-
bi, rac vlindeba muclis areSi
tkiviliT, madis daqveiTebiT,
defekaciis darRveviT. Tavs
iCens gardatexis asakis anoreq-
sia, romelic gansakuTrebiT
xSiria gogonebSi _ isini Tavs
msuqan da arasrulfasovan ada-
mianebad miiCneven da TiTqmis
uars amboben sakvebze. garkveu-
li periodis Semdeg Wama saer-
Tod aRar SeuZliaT, miuxedavad
imisa, rom ukve Wamis survili
aqvs _ aseTebs specialuri
mkurnaloba esaWiroebaT.
xelsayreli garemos SeqmniT
mozardebi sxvebis Caurevlad-
Tavs aRweven nevrozul mdgoma-
reobas, Tumca gardatexis asa-
kis dasrulebis Semdeg (18-20
weli), Tu igive cvlilebebi
narCundeba, aucilebelia kvali-
ficiuri samedicino Careva.
isteria da
akviatebuli azrebi
zogjer, yuradRebis miqce-
vis mizniT, mozardebSi xSiria
isteriuli Setevebi: yvirian
ganrisxebulni, ixeven tanze
tansacmels, iglejen Tmas, amt-
vreven WurWels, ikbenen xelebs,
ifurTxebian, Tavs esxmian sru-
liad udanaSauloT. Setevis
xangrZlivoba damokidebulia ma-
yurebelTa raodenobasa da maT
reaqciaze, rac meti mayurebe-
lia da TanagrZnobas grZnobs
maTi mxridan, miT xangrZlivia
Seteva, romlis Semdegac aRar
iZineben, iwyeben Civilsa da
moTqma-godebas.
Setevisas zogierTi ganmeo-
rebiT moZraobebs ritmulad as-
rulebs, isteriuli mozarde-
bisTvis damaxasiaTebelia damb-
la, kontraqturebi; magaliTad,
maT SeuZliaT sawolSi fexebis
moZraoba, magram ver dgebian da
verc dadian. uCndebaT vegetati-
uri moSlilobani _ bronqos-
pazmi, romlis drosac ar SeuZ-
liaT saubari, ylapva, aqvT
krunCxviTi xvela, Rebineba, hae-
ris ukmarisoba, asTmuri Sete-
vebi, sxeulis temperaturis ma-
teba da sxva.
irRveva metyveleba _ xSi-
ria enis gamudmebuli borZiki,
romelic gansxvavdeba sxva for-
mebisgan, isteriuli mutizmi _
metyvelebis sruli uqonloba
an nawilobrivi, mozardi munj-
deba an SerCeviTad saubrobs.
xSiria akviatebuli azrebiT
gamowveuli problemebic, rode-
sac mozardi aikviatebs ararea-
lur da ausrulebel survils
da misi Seusrulebloba masSi
ukve did fsiqoemociur gancda
iwvevs.
gardatexis asakis nevrozi
xSirad araswori aRzrdis Se-
degia, misi mastimuleblebi
zogjer Tavad mozrdilebi ari-
an _ mSoblebi, maswavleblebi,
ojaxis sxva wevrebi, romlebic
uyrueben mozardis Tavisebure-
bebs da maT angariSs ar uweven.
Seqmnil viTarebaSi erTaderTi
gamosavali swored am asakis
fsiqo-fiziologiur Tavisebu-
rebaTa codna da maTi gaTvalis-
winebaa.
sakurorto romanebis Semd-
gom urogenitaluri qlamidio-
ziT moavade adamianTa ricxvi
erTiaTad matulobs, igi xom
sqesobrivi gziT gadamdebi erT-
erTi yvelaze gavrcelebuli
daavadebaa. mas mikroorganizmi
qlamidia iwvevs da ZiriTadad
axalgazrdebSi gvxvdeba. dRes
qlamidioziT sqesobriv urTi-
erTobaSi myof adamianTa 5-10
procentia daavadebuli.
dainficireba xdeba rogorc
Cveulebrivi, ise gaukuRmarTe-
buli (analuri, oraluri) sqe-
sobrivi urTierTobisas. erTje-
radi kontaqtisas dainficire-
bis xarisxi 50 procents Sead-
gens.
dasnebovneba sayofacxovrebo
gziT naklebrealuria _ qlami-
diebi organizmis gareSe swra-
fad iRupebian, inficirebisTvis
mikrobebis sakmao raodenobis
sayofacxovrebo gziT moxvedra
ver xdeba, ase rom, dainficire-
ba sapirfareSoSi, sacurao
auzebSi, abanoebSi, saerTo Wur-
WliTa da pirsaxocis gamoyene-
biT ar xdeba.
daavadebis inkubaciuri pe-
riodi 1-idan 3 kviramdea, misT-
vis damaxasiaTebeli niSnebi in-
ficirebidan swored am perio-
dis gavlis Semdgom iCens Tavs..
rogor gamovicnoT daavadeba
daavadeba sakmaod xSirad
mimdinareobs usimptomod an mi-
nimaluri gamovlinebebiT. igi
absoluturad farulad mimdi-
nareobs mamakacTa 46, xolo
qalTa 67 procentSi.
qalebs daavadebisas
aReniSnebaT:
_ gamonadeni saSodan lor-
wovani an lorwovan-Cirqovani,
usiamovno suniT da moyviTalo
feriT.
_ Sardvisas arcTu Zlieri
tkivilebi gareTa da SigniTa
sasqeso organoebSi, qavili da
wva.
_ muclis qveda areSi tki-
vili.
_ TeTradSlis gaZliereba
menstruaciis win, mcire sisxl-
denebi.
_ zogadi sisuste da tempe-
raturis mateba, rac intoqsika-
ciis niSnebia.
mamakacebs
axasiaTebT:
_ dasawyisSi vlin-
deba, rogorc saSarde
gzebis gaxangrZlivebu-
li msubuqi anTeba _
ureTriti, romelic
ramdenime Tve grZel-
deba.
_ lorwovani an
lorwovn-Cirqovani ga-
monadeni.
_ Sardvisas qavili
da wva.
_ arcTu Zlieri
tkivili welis mida-
moebSi, Sardsadensa da
saTesleSi.
_ SesaZlebelia
temperaturis mateba
37 gradusamde.
_ zogadi sisuste da Sar-
dis amRvreva, maTSi Cirqovani
Zafebis arseboba, zogjer sisx-
liani gamonadeni Sardvis an
eakulaciis Semdeg.
qlamidiozs axasiaTebs e.w.
xangrZlivi mtarebloba, imunu-
ri sistema Trgunavs maT da or-
ganizmSi qlamidiebis arsebobaze
araferi miuTiTebs, radgan kli-
nikuri, instrumentuli da la-
boratoriuli kvlevebisas da-
sawyisSi dazianebis niSnebi ar
vlindeba, mxolod specifikuri
kvlevebiTaa SesaZlebeli qlami-
diebis aRmoCena.
is SeiZleba garTuldes
mamakacebSi daavadeba SesaZ-
loa garTuldes saTesle dana-
matis anTebiT _ epididimitiT,
qalebSi yvelaze xSiri garTu-
lebaa saSvilosnos da misi da-
namatebis anTeba, romelic Sem-
deg uSvilobis mTavari mizezi
xdeba. izrdeba saSvilosnosgare
orsulobebis riski. damaxasia-
Tebeli garTulebaa reiteris
sindromi, romelic vlindeba
Sardsadeni arxis (qalebSi saS-
vilosnos yelis), Tvalebisa da
saxsrebis anTebiT. zogierTi
specialisti qlamidiozs pros-
tatitis mizezadac miiCnevs.
uSvilobas, rogorc qaleb-
Si, ise mamakacebSi, gansazRv-
ravs daavadebis xangrZlivoba
da TandarTuli sxva infeqciebi
_ qlamidiebi organizms, Cveu-
lebriv, sxva mikrobebTan erTad
azianebs.
qlamidiozi da orsuloba
orsulobisas qlamidiozi
iwvevs nayofis ganuviTareblo-
bas, naadrev mSobiarobas, norma-
ze dabali wonis nayofis daba-
debas, Warbwylianobas, placen-
tisa da misi garsis dazianebas,
mSobiarobisas cxelebas.
bavSvis dainficireba daava-
debuli dedisgan SesaZlebelia
rogorc saSvilosnoSi, ise
mSobiarobis dros (40 procen-
ti). bavSvi ibadeba Tandayoli-
li qlamidioziT, mas SesaZloa
aRmoaCndes:
_ ofTalmoqlamidioziT,
koniunqtiviti _ 18-20 procen-
ti.
_ axalSobilTa qlamidiuri
pnevmonia, filtvebis anTeba _
20-25 procenti.
_ generalizebuli qlamidi-
ozi _ filtvebis, gulis, RviZ-
lisa da kuW-nawlavis traqtis
dazianeba.
_ centraluri nervuli
sistemis dazianeba _ encefalo-
paTiebi, krunCxva, sunTqvis dar-
Rveva.
_ sasqeso organoebisa da
Sarsadenis arxis, cxvir-xaxis
anTebiTi dazianeba.
daicaviT Tavi
rogorc aRvniSneT, daavade-
bis drouli diagnostika sakma-
od rTulia; amasTan, qlamidiebs
advilad SeuZliaT `damalva~,
amitom misgan Tavis dasacavi sa-
ukeTeso gzaa erTi da mudmivi
sqesobrivi partnioris yola,
SemTxveviTi kontaqtebisas ba-
rieruli kontracefciis _ pre-
zervativis gamoyeneba.
mkurnaloba orive partni-
ors erTdroulad utardeba. am
periodSi akrZalulia daucve-
li sqesobrivi kontaqti. gamo-
janmrTelebis Semdeg, mkurna-
lobis xarisxis dasadgenad,
momdevno ramdenime Tvis ganmav-
lobaSi saWiroa sakontroli
imunologiuri sinjebis Catare-
ba.
sakurorto sezonis Semdgomi daavadeba
ratom Wirveulobs mozardi
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li saarCevno kampaniisTvis, sajaro
Sexvedrebis organizebisTvis, plaka-
tebis dasabeWdad da soflidan so-
felSi sasiarulod, wers Le Monde.daxmarebis mowodeba sakmaod ucnau-
ria, radgan opoziciis lideri ar
gakotrebula. biZina ivaniSvilis qo-
nebas Forbes 5 miliard evrod afa-
sebs, rac saqarTvelos wliur biu-
jets aWarbebs, vkiTxulobT gamoce-
maSi. TumcaRa politikuri saqmiano-
bisTvis uzarmazari Tanxebis xarjva,
rogorc Cans, ivaniSvilisTvis SeuZ-
lebeli aRmoCnda.
ukanaskneli epizodi finansuri
omisa, romelsac prezidenti saakaS-
vili Tavisi yvelaze seriozuli me-
toqis winaaRmdeg eweva, 17 agvisto-
Tia daTariRebuli. samTavrobo sam-
saxurebma daiwyes im partiebis sa-
banko angariSebis dacarieleba, rom-
lebic biZina ivaniSvilis koalicia
`qarTul ocnebaSi~ Sedian.
ivnisidan moyolebuli, opozici-
is or ZiriTad liders _ biZina iva-
niSvilsa da kaxi kalaZes aTobiT mi-
lion evros jarimas akisreben _ xe-
lisuflebis azriT, maT daarRvies
kanoni arCevnebis Sesaxeb, aRniSnavs
Jurnalisti benua vitkini. ori li-
derisTvis wayenebuli jarimis saer-
To moculoba 100 milion evromdea.
opozicia am Tanxis srulad gadax-
daze uars acxadebs. igi ilaSqrebs
`sabWouri meTodebis~ winaaRmdeg da
imuqreba, rom 1-l oqtombers dageg-
mili arCevnebis Sedegebs ar aRia-
rebs. ivlisis dasawyisSi evrokav-
Sirma am faqtis gamo SeSfoTeba ga-
moTqva _ xelisufleba kanons cal-
mxrivad iyenebs da Tavgadakluli
cdilobs, xeli SeuSalos ivaniSvi-
lis saarCevno procesSi monawileo-
bas.
amerikis SeerTebuli Statebi ar-
CevnebisTvis Tvalyuris midevnebas
apirebs. Semodgomaze saqarTvelo Ca-
atarebs tests, Tu ramdenad momwi-
febulia misi politikuri sistema.
`SeZlebs ki qarTuli demokratia da
qarTuli opozicia 9 wlis win,
`vardebis revoluciiT~ mosuli saa-
kaSvilis xelisuflebis mSvidobiani
gziT Secvlas?~ _ kiTxulobs Jur-
nalisti. saakaSvilis momavalic ga-
urkvevelia da Sesabamisad, dasmul
kiTxvaze pasuxis gacemac ar aris
ioli. prezidents ar aqvs ufleba,
2013 wlis saprezidento arCevnebze
mesamed waradginos sakuTari kandi-
datura, politikuri scenidan misi
wasvla ki naklebsavaraudoa.
aqamde xelisuflebas susti da
danawevrebuli opozocia hyavda.
2011 wels biZina ivaniSvilis gamo-
Cenam viTareba Zirfesvianad Secvala.
biznesmeni, romelmac Tavisi qoneba
1990-ian wlebSi ruseTSi daagrova,
qarTuli politikuri cis kabadonze
meteoriviT gamoCnda. politikur
avanscenaze gamosvlamde, misi saxeli
didi masStabis saqvelmoqmedo pro-
eqtebs ukavSirdeboda. axla poli-
tikuri gegmebiT gamoCnda da misi
strategiaa soflis meurneobis gan-
viTareba, umuSevrobasTan brZola da
xalxis keTildReobis gaumjobeseba.
xelisufleba iZulebuli gaxda mis-
Tvis miebaZa da Sua zafxulSi soci-
aluri programebis masStaburi geg-
mebi dasaxa. `mdgomareoba sul ufro
da ufro iZabeba~, _ aRniSnavs avto-
ri.
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1-li oqtombris saparlamento arCevnebSi
ZiriTadi konkurentebi arian opoziciuri blo-
ki `qarTuli ocneba~ da mmarTveli partia `er-
Tiani nacionaluri moZraoba. erTic da meorec
qveynis teritoriaze mcxovrebi nacionaluri
umciresobebis mimxrobas cdilobs, acxadebs
somxeTis saagentosTvis micemul interviuSi
saqarTvelos diplomatiuri akademiis reqto-
ri, politologi soso cincaZe.
nacionaluri umciresobebi realuri Zalaa
da bunebrivia, erTmaneTis konkurenti TiToeu-
li politikuri Zala maT Soris sakuTar
eleqtorats eZebs. swored amiT unda aixsnas
politikuri koalicia `qarTuli ocnebisa~ da
somxuri organizacia `javaxkis~ TanamSromlo-
ba _ `qarTulma ocnebam~ swored aqedan warad-
gina deputatobis maJoritari kandidati. am na-
bijs koaliciis lideris eqstravagantur nabi-
jad afaseben.
ZiriTad mosaxleobasac da nacionalur um-
ciresobebsac erTi da igive socialuri prob-
lemebi awuxebT. amitomac politikuri Zalebi
TavianT winasaarCevno programebSi swored am
socialuri problemebis mogvarebis Zalzed
momxiblav gadawyvetilebebs sTavazoben amomr-
Cevlebs.
momavali saparlamento arCevnebi pirvelia
istoriaSi, roca mmarTvel partias konkuren-
tunariani Zala upirispirdeba. qveyanaSi krizi-
sia da politikuri Zalebi yovel Rones xma-
roben Zalauflebis xelSi Casag-
debad. ase rom, saqarTvelos par-
lamentis arCevnebi iqneba mosamza-
debeli kursebi saimisod, rom
qveyana demokratiis gzas daages.
informacia: axalqalaqis saar-
Cevno olqSi koalicia `qarTulma
ocnebam~ maJoritar kandidatad
daasaxela somxuri organizacia
`javaxkis~ Tavmjdomare norik ka-
rapetiani. kandidatTa wardgenis
Semdeg koaliciis liderma biZina
ivaniSvilma ganacxada: norik kara-
petiani kargad icnobs somxuri diasporis
moTxovnebs. man Searbila Tavisi Sexedulebebi
da saxelmwifo azrovnebiT Caanacvla.
unda iTqvas isic, rom saxelisuflebo me-
diasaSualebebma wamoiwyes kampania opoziciis
kandidat karapetianze, romelsac `separatis-
tuli organizaciis meTauri~ uwodes. unda vi-
varaudoT movlenebis aseTi ganviTareba: roca
qarTuli opozicia mxars uWers im organiza-
cias, romelic somxuri mosaxleobis uflebe-
bis gazrdas iTxovs, es TavisTavad imas niS-
navs, rom somxebiT dasaxlebuli regionSi
eleqtorati naklebad dauWers mxars mixeil
saakaSvilis `erTian nacionalur moZraobas~.
yerkramas.orgNEWS.am
qarTuli opoziciistelearxs
evropaSi uyurebenqarTuli tele-
arxi TV9 ukve
xelmisawvdomia ev-
ropuli auditori-
isTvis, maT Soris
evropuli ruseTis-
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xvedeliZe, meuRle
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romlis mier Camoyalibebuli politikuri koalicia
saqarTvelos axlandeli xelisuflebis mTavari kon-
kurentia Semodgomaze dagegmil saparlamento ar-
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gzavris Türksat 2A/3A 42 ãð. E gareT aris ganTavse-buli. 2011 wlis ianvridan Hotbird 13 ãð. E-idan ma-uwyebloba daiwyo saqarTvelos saerTaSoriso te-
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kasiuri _ ÏÈÊ~), romelic `saqarTvelos sazoga-
doebrivma mauwyebelma~ ucxoeli auditoriisTvis
Seqmna.
TV9, iseve rogorc ÏÈÊ, obieqturi Jurnalis-
tikis deklarirebas axdens, magram igi gaTvlilia
ara gare, aramed Sida auditoriisTvis _ TV9 qar-
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xelisufleba qarTulopozicias aviwroebs
saqarTveloSi pirvelad imarTebaarCevnebi, sadac xelisuflebas
konkurentunariani opozicia hyavs
mimoxilva moamzada
g. WavWavaZem.
24 saerTo gazeTi #37 (221), 29.VIII-4.IX, 2012 w.
wesiTa da rigiT, samsaris kl-
deSi nakveTi kompleqsi aqamdec
unda gvenaxa, magram verana samsa-
ris gamo gza gavimrudeT da so-
fel did samsarSi aRmoCndiT. er-
Tma somxurma ojaxma Sesveneba da
papanaqeba sicxeSi sulismoTqma Se-
mogvTavaza. maspinZlebi _ artiomi
da Jana cibrutiviT trialeben,
sufraze cxvris xorci, mRili,
Rvezeli, yveli da araJani gamo-
aqvT... mere Tafli, koniaki da ya-
va. artiomi cdilobs, ramdenime
qarTuli sityva Seakowiwos da
gvasiamovnos. wuxs artiomi _ bav-
Svebs skolaSi ucxo enas aswavli-
an, qarTuls ki arao... mis naTqvam-
ze javaxeTis kidev erT sofelSi
_ moliTSi gacnobili somxuri
ojaxi maxsendeba, romelmac aseve
gulTbilad gvimaspinZla. arasd-
ros damaviwydeba erevnidan dabru-
nebuli is qaliSvili, romelmac
gogebaSvilis `dedaena~ gviCvena
wignebis Taroze da gviTxra: aseTi
mSvenieri damwerloba dedamiwis
zurgze arsad meguleba da Tavs
movaled vTvli qarTuli viswav-
loo. javaxeTSi mogzaurobisas
sakmaod bevri keTilSobili some-
xi gavicani. arian, ra Tqma unda
iseTebic, romlebic jibrSi udga-
nan qarTvelebs da sofels wamla-
ven separatistuli baciliT, mag-
ram kargsa da cuds sad, romel
erSi ar naxav.
...patara samsarisken gavbrun-
diT da Sua gzaze marjvniv, samsa-
riswylis meore napirze, gadave-
diT. mze karga xania dasavleTiT
gadaixara da Crdilebi dagrZelda.
xasxasa balaxs niavma gadauqrola
da kelaptrebiviT amowverili yvi-
Teli yvavilebi aacekva. erT monak-
veTSi samsariswyals klde esazRv-
reba, romlis centrSi ramdenime
gamoqvabulia. iqve mcire kldeka-
ria gaWrili.
movediT!... swored es aris sam-
saris kldeSi nakveTi namonastra-
li.
qvab-ssenakebi sam sarTuladaa
kldeSi nakveTi. zustad am sami
sarTulis simaRle aqvs kompleq-
sis aRmosavleT nawilSi arsebul
jvar-ggumbaTovan eklesias. gumba-
Tis yeli tradiciulad sakur-
Txevlis absidis mxrebs da or
Tavisufal svets eyrdnoba. dar-
bazSi kidev erTi wyvili svetia,
romelic dasavleTis, samxreTisa
da CrdiloeTis mklavebs mijnavs.
es svetebic, gumbaTic, sakurTxe-
velic da mTavari darbazic
kldis erT monoliTSia gamoWri-
li. garda amisa, mTavar darbazs
samxreTidan mikruli aqvs aseve
kldeSi gamoWrili derefnebi,
romlebic sadiakvnoTi da samkveT-
loTi sruldeba. rogor SeiZleba
ar aRgvafrTovanos da gagvaocos
xuroTmoZRvris ostatobam, rome-
lic qvis monoliTSi kveTda kon-
struqciul formebs da jiutad
ebrZoda kldes.
kldeSi nakveTi samonastro
kompleqsebi erTi didi da calke
Temaa da masze saubars aq ar vapi-
reb, magram mTlad uTqmelobac ar
iqneba. kldeSi nakveTi gumbaTiani
taZari, samsaris garda, vanis qva-
bebSic gvxvdeba (qveda, dangreuli
didi taZari), magram qanebis CamoS-
lis gamo igi Sedarebis saSuale-
bas ar iZleva. miuxedavad amisa
iseTi STabeWdileba rCeba, rom igi
gegmarebiT ramdenadme martivi un-
da yofiliyo samsarTan SedarebiT.
samsaris taZari qarTuli sam-
To xuroTmoZRvrebis erT-erTi
brwyinvale nimuSia. mis Semoqmeds
mTis laRi, gaSlili bunebidan mo-
ulodnelad SevyavarT absolutu-
rad gansxvavebul konkretul da
idumal samyaroSi. igi mistikas
miscemia da gveubneba, rom mSvenie-
ri samyaros fSvinvas safuZvlad
udevs uflis is sityva, romelic
aq, am qvabebSia garindebuli.
kompleqsSi mTavari taZris
garda gvxvdeba sxvadasxva sar-
Tulze kldeSi nakveTi satrapezo,
mcire samlocveloebi, dedaboZiani
darbazi da sxva, romelTagan zo-
gierTi gvirabebiT iyo dakavSire-
buli.
mTavar taZars aqvs ori Zalian
saintereso warwera. umTavresi,
qtitoruli warwera moTavsebulia
Sesasvlelis Tavze, samkuTxa Camo-
texil qvaze. qvis meore nawili
dakargulia. sxvaTa Soris, darCe-
nili qvac myarad aRar zis budeSi
da SesaZloa, isic Camovardes. sa-
naxevrod Semonaxuli warwera no-
dar SoSiaSvils ase aqvs aRdgeni-
li: `q. aSenda wmidai ese vani
RmrTismSoblis samkvidre odes
qarTvelTa mefeman kuropalatma
daviT da erman yovelman ese vani
da krebuli Seguibrala, maSin di-
disa Wirisagan guixsna, da ufalo,
ixsenin igica dResa mas gankiTxvi-
sasa. sulam maSin davwere, odes
agarianTa mcxeTis eklesiai dawu-
es da ninos xeli waritanes~. war-
weridan irkveva, rom X saukuneSi
es monasteri aSenda daviT kuro-
palatis mecadineobiT gaWirvebaSi
myofi im mRvdel-monazvnebisTvis,
romlebic arabTa mier mcxeTidan
wminda ninos aRmarTuli jvris ga-
tacebas moswrebian. advili SesaZ-
lebelia, warweris amomkveTi sula
xuroTmoZRvaric ki iyos.
mTavari taZris zogierTi kon-
struqciuli nawili, metadre ki
nalisebrTan miaxloebuli formis
TaRebi TiTqos adre Suasaukuneeb-
ze migvaniSnebs da imas gvikarna-
xebs, rom sityva `aSeneba~-Si, ro-
gorc xSirad xdeboda xolme, Zir-
fesviani ganaxleba da rekonstruq-
cia ufro igulisxmeba. ras unda
niSnavdes siRrmiseulad fraza _
`maSin didi Wirisagan guixsna~?
imas xom ara, rom cisqveS darCe-
nili berebisTvis uSveliaT da mo-
nasteri aRudgeniaT? Cndeba meore
SekiTxvac: vin da ram daangria mo-
nasteri, ra moxda? mgoni, rom ama-
ze pasuxs iZleva is meore, erTi
SexedviT ucnauri warwera, rome-
lic taZris fasadidanaa Camovard-
nili: `saxeliTa RmrTisaTa da me-
oxebiTa wmidisa RmrTismSobelisa-
iTa ese wmida eklesiai odes aRe-
Sena, maSin es adgili tyisagan ar
Canda~. meore warwera pirvels av-
sebs da misi Taviseburi ganmarte-
bacaa. orive warwera aseTi daskv-
nis gamotanis saSualebas gvaZ-
levs: kldeSi nakveTi monasteri
Tavdapirvelad daburul tyeSi
mdgara, magram Semdeg tyec ganad-
gurebula da monasteric. meore
warweris amomkveTs es ambavi kar-
gad xsomebia. mRvdel-monazvnebi
usaxlkarod da utaZrod darCeni-
lan didi tragediis Semdeg, magram
am gaWirvebidan isini uxsnia daviT
kuropalats, romelsac taZari
aRudgenia, da, albaT, gaufarToe-
bia kidec. es ambavi mas Semdeg mom-
xdara, rac agarianebs (arabebs)
mcxeTidan ninos `xeli~ gautaci-
aT.
Cveni rubrikis erTgul mkiTx-
vels aucileblad emaxsovreba ba-
raleTSi Cawerili legenda iqauri
tyis gadawvisa da oqros jvar-
gumbaTis waRebis Sesaxeb. legen-
dis es siuJeti Zalian hgavs wm.
ninos jvris gatacebis ambavs da
samsaris warweriT dadasturebul
Zveli tyis arsebobas. isini erTma-
neTTan kavSirSi unda iyvnen da er-
Tsa da imave istoriul ambavs
ireklavdnen. es tragedia Zalian
axlosaa 914 wels arabi amiris
abul-kasimis mier qarTlsa da sam-
cxe-javaxeTSi mowyobil damangre-
vel laSqrobasTan. roca abul-ka-
simma Tmogvis mrisxane cixes vera-
feri daaklo, gamwarebulma qva
qvaze ar datova javaxeTSi _ tye-
ebi gadawva da eklesia-monastrebi
daaqcia. Tu aseTi versia misaRebia,
maSin warweraSi naxsenebi mefe-kku-
ropalati daviTi qarTvelTa (tao-
klarjeTis) mefe daviT meorea
(923-9937 w). erTi sityviT, samsa-
ris kldis kompleqsi X saukuneSi
aRdgenili adrindeli monasteria
da gamoTqma `tye-jjavaxeTis~ isto-
riul sabuTsac gvaZlevs.
namonastralis daTvalierebasa
da gadaRebas rom vasrulebT, ga-
reT gamosulebi Casasvlelad gam-
zadebuli mzis xilviT vtkbebiT.
Cvens gverdiT mxne futkari isev
daeZebs TibaTvis yvavilTa tkbil-
surnelebas. gamefebul idumalebas
am oblad darCenili futkris bzu-
ili da samsariwylis Soreuli
Cxriali arRvevs. vuyureb, vusmen
da winaparTa aCrdilebis gamocxa-
debas veli.
... samsars viyav, momenatreT.
gela qoqiaSviliavtoris fotoebi
mmooggzzaauurroobbaa ssaammSSoobbllooSSii
tye-javaxeTi
samsars viyav, momenatreT...
samsaris kompleqsis
warweriani qvebi da xedebi
25saerTo gazeTi#37 (221), 29.VIII-4.IX, 2012 w.
migraciis maCvenebeli saqarTve-
loSi wlidan wlamde izrdeba. ar
arsebobs zusti maCvenebli imisa,
Tu ramdeni adamiani imyofeba sazR-
vargareT. miT umetes, SeuZlebelia
imis daTvla, ramden adamians surs
sazRvargareT gaxizvna, magram ver
axerxebs gamgzavrebas. 2010 wels
saqarTvelo pirvelad Sevida im
qveynebis aTeulSi, romlis moqala-
qeebic yvelaze xSirad iTxoven
sazRvargareT TavSesafars. aTeul-
Si saqarTvelos garda Sedian: avRa-
neTi, erayi, somali, serbia, nigeria,
irani, pakistani, CineTi da ruseTi.
Aam aTeulSi saqarTvelo bolo ad-
gilze “gavida”, magram samagierod,
pirvel adgilze aRmovCndiT, sazR-
vargareT samudamod wavslis msur-
velTa zrdis tempebiT.
arada, prezidenti TiTq-
mis yoveli gamosvlisas
imiT gvaxarebs, Tu ramde-
niT gaizarda bolo peri-
odSi samSobloSi dabru-
nebul qarTvelTa raode-
noba, Tumca ucnobia, sa-
idan aqvs saakaSvils es
monacemebi.
bolo wlebSi gansa-
kuTrebiT megobrulad
“gvexmareba” TurqeTis
respublika. yvelasTvis
cnobilia, rom yvelaze
martivad iq SeuZliaT
qarTvelebs dasaqmeba.
madlmosxmuli Turqebs,
samagierod, Cvens samSob-
loSi vasaxlebT, biznesis wamowye-
baSi xels vuwyobT, miwebs lamis
vCuqniT, yvela pirobas vuqmniT sa-
imisod, rom Cvens qveyanaSi Cvens
sakuTar mosaxleobaze ufro dacu-
lad da amayad igrZnon Tavi.
ra kategoriis xalxi midis ma-
inc TurqeTSi “qveSefsia” bavSvebis
da invalidi moxucebis mosavle-
lad? – yvelanairi, gaWirvebuli
sofleli, romelsac kapikebad gayi-
duli yurZnis mosavlidan aRebuli
Tanxa wlidan wlamde ar hyofnis,
adamianebi, romlebmac Cvens Sadrav-
nebiT da SeRebili fasadebiT gala-
mazebul qalaqebSi samuSao adgili
vera da ver gamoZebnes, inteligen-
ciis is nawili, romlebic mxolod
imitom gaaTavisufles samsaxurebi-
dan, rom Cvens axalgazrda minist-
rebs biZebad da deidebad Seefere-
bian, da romlebic prezidentma Ca-
recxa da aRar moikiTxa.
Cemi respodenti 55 wlis qal-
batonia, romelsac ar surs saxe-
lisa da gvaris gamxela. qalbaton-
ma konservatoria daamTavra da
wlebis ganmavlobaSi fortepianos
pedagogad muSaobda qalaqis cno-
bil samusiko skolebSi. ama
wlisGgazafxulze qalbatons Ses-
Tavazes TurqeTSi samuSaod wasvla.
Suamavali Turq damsaqmebelsa da
qarTvel qalbatons Soris TurqeT-
Si mcxovrebi qarTveli qali gaxl-
daT:
- qalbatoni meubneboda, rom
damasaqmebda, maZlevda garantiebs.
ambobda, Tu ver dagasaqmeb drou-
lad, me Tavad gipatronebo. Turqi
damsaqmebeli, visTanac qarTvel
qalbatoni didi xania ukve TanamS-
romlobda, iyo vinme erkan arbaCi,
romelsac mersinSi, mezitli star
pet-Si hqonda ofisi, Tumca ofis-
sac ver davarqmevdiT, es iyo sar-
dafi, romelsac arc abra ekida da
arc interieriT hgavda ofiss. Se-
Tanxmebulni viyaviT rom erkans
pirveli xelfasis naxevars mivcem-
di.
- qarTvel Suamavalsac gadau-
xadeT fuli, Tu mas erkani uxdida
Tavisi wilidan?
- me ar gadamixdia qarTveli
SuamavlisaTvis. savaraudod, erkani,
albaT, uxdida, radgan am qalba-
tons bevri hyavda erkanTan miyvani-
li da dasaqmebuli. is sakmaod di-
di xnis ganmavlobaSi TanamSrom-
lobda erkanTan. Tumca Cems wamo-
savlamde cota xniT adre erkanma
da qarTvelma Suamavalma TanamS-
romloba Sewyvites, erkanTan baTu-
midan samuSaod Camovdinen rZal-mu-
li. oriveni daasaqme. ramdenime kvi-
raSi muli wamoiyvana samsaxuridan,
ofisSi moiyvana da sayvarlad dais-
va. Merkanis baTumeli sayvareli,
Turq “damsaqmebels” qarTvel Sua-
mavalTan urTierTobas uSlida,
amis gamo erkansa da qarTvel qal-
batons urTierToba daeZabaT da sa-
bolood TanamSromlobac Sewyvi-
tes.
- es qarTveli qalbatoni, ram-
denadac vici, TurqeTSi gaTxovi-
lia da Turqi meuRle hyavs. ratom
eWvianobda erkanis sayvareli qarT-
vel Suamavalze?
- ar vici, magram faqtia, rom
isini waaCxuba da TanamSromloba
Seawyvetina.
- male dagasaqmes Tu ara da
ramdenad Seesabameboda arsebuli
pirobebi dapirebuls?
- pirvelad ramdenime dReSi da-
masaqmes. Oor invalid bavSvs vuv-
lidi. wesiT unda mqonoda Cemi
oTaxi, sadac davisvenebdi samuSao
dRis Semdeg, unda mqonoda gamosas-
vleli dRe. Mmagram aRmoCnda, rom
dRisa da Ramis morige unda vyofi-
liyavi. bavSvebis oTaxSi momiCines
sawoli, arc dasvenebis dRe gamo-
miyves, arc oTaxi da arc samuSao
saaTebi ganmesazRvra.
Tanxas ki igives mixdid-
nen, rasac erTi norma-
luuri bavSvis movlaSi
ixdian TurqeTSi. gau-
saZlisi pirobebi iyo,
amitom erkanTan SeTanx-
mebiT male wamovedi am
samuSao adgilidan. raki
mTeli Tve ar mimuSavia,
erkans, romelic dasaq-
mebis safasurs Turqi
ojaxebisaganac iRebs,
ver gadavuxade dapire-
buli Tanxa. meore oja-
xi ramdenime dReSi momi-
Zebna. amjerad moxuc in-
valids vuvlidi. iq sak-
maod kargad meqceodnen.
pirvelive xelfasze erkanis “vali”
mTlianad gavistumre, magram meore
Tvis dasawyisSive moxuci gardaic-
vala da Sesabamisad, umuSevari dav-
rCi. rasakvirvelia, isev ofisSi
davbrundi, radgan, SeTanxmeba
gvqonda, rom isev unda davesaqmebi-
ne. 12 dRe da Rame ofisSi, auta-
nel sibiZuresa da antisanitariaSi
divanze meZina. dReSi orjer ham-
burgers maWmevdnen da imasac mamad-
lidnen. erkani meubneboda –
mibrZandi da Senma qarTvelma
Suamavalma dagasaqmoso, qar-
Tveli qali ki isev Turq
damsaqmebelTan miSvebda. bo-
los miTxres, gipovneT samsa-
xurio da gamamgzavres rome-
liRac qalaqSi. 6 saaTi gava-
tare gzaSi. mivedi ojaxSi,
sadac Turqmeni qalbatoni
muSaobda. qali meore diliT
unda wasuliyo samsaxuridan
da me unda davrCeniliyavi
mis adgilas. es qalic im pi-
robiT wamoiyvanes, rom dam-
saqmeblisTvis 400 dolari
unda gadaexada, magram erTma
damsaqmebelma meores gadaabara da
meorem mesames, exla ki samive
sTxovda fuls, imaSi rom es qali,
rogorc iqna erT samsaxurSi moawy-
ves. amitomac, Turqmeni qalbatoni
saxlSi dabrunebas apirebda, magram
qals pasporti gamoarTves da manam
ar miscemdnen, sanam 1200 dolars
ar gadaixdida. (anu samive damsaq-
meblisTvis 400-400 dolars).
Turqmenma, romelsac, rasakvirve-
lia, ar hqonda es Tanxa, darCena
gadawyvita. Tavs imiT iimedebda,
rom am valis gastumrebis Semdeg
passports daibrunebda da ukve
xelfassac Tavad aiRebda.
- anu Tqven isev umuSevari dar-
CiT?
- diax. Camsves avtobusSi da
isve mersinSi gamomiSves. isev 6 sa-
aTi vimgzavre. gzidan erkans davu-
reke da vTxove sadgurze damxved-
roda, magram ar damxvda. isev davu-
reke, miTxra: sadac ginda wadi, Tu
ginda isev Sens saqarTveloSi dab-
rundi, magram ofisSi ar moxvide,
davketeTo. qarTvel Suamavals da-
vureke, arc is apirebda damxmarebo-
da, magram vuTxari: - aqve moviklav
Tavs da sanam Tavs moviklav, yvelas
gavagebineb, ris da vis gamo vakeTeb
amas-Tqo. Aamis Semdeg momakiTxa, is
Rame masTan gamaTevina, da gamafr-
Txila, Tu erkanma darekos, ar
uTxra CemTan rom xaro. meore dRes
ki saqarTveloSi gamomistumra.
- mainc ratom aRar mogiZebnaT
erkanma axali samuSao adgili?
- ar vici. faqtia, me gadaxdili
mqonda Tanxa, romelsac dasaqmebis
safasurad mTxovda.
- ukacravad, am kiTxvisTvis,
magram seqsualuri urTierToba ar
SemouTavazebiaT?
- mxolod erTxel. avtobusSi
Turqma SemomTavaza, magram rogorc
ki uari vuTxari, meored aRarc ga-
umeorebia. Tu uars etyvi, namdvi-
lad aravin gaiZulebs da aravin ga-
viwroebs.
msgavsi istoria, albaT, Tur-
qeTSi bevr qarTvel qalbatons ga-
daxdomia Tavs. UTumca, TurqeTSi
samuSaod wasvla, saqarTveloSi
umuSevrobiT da ufulobiT gatan-
jul adamianebSi, mainc sarfian saq-
med iTvleba. TbilisSi uamravi
ofisia, romlebic saqarTvelodan
TurqeTSi dasaqmebas kurireben.
erT-erT maTgans davukavSirdi:
-ggamarjobaT. TurqeTSi minda
dasaqmeba, ojaxSi, Tumca Turquli
ar vici.
-ra uSavs, eg dasaqmebaSi ar
gviSlis xels. Turquli advilad
gasagebi enaa da male iswavliT.
- pirobebs ver gamacnobT?
- 200 dolars ixdiT da ojax-
Si samuSaod giSvebT.
- mxolod 200 dolars? iq
TurqeTSi arafers vixdi?
- ki, iq iqaur damsaqmebelTanac
ixdiT xelfasis naxevars.
- Tu ojaxi ar momewona an pi-
robebi damxvdeba gausaZlisi?
- Cven aucileblad mogiZebniT
axal ojaxs imdenjer, ramdenjerac
saWiro iqneba. es Cveni movaleobaa.
- Tu lodini momixda samsaxuri
gamoCenamde, Rames sad gavaTev da
vin mipatronebs?
- rasakvirvelia, Turqi damsaq-
mebeli. amaze ar inerviuloT. Tanac
es mxolod ramdenime dRe gagrZel-
deba. samsaxurs advilad gipovnian.
- ra sabuTebi unda movitano?
- mxolod pasporti da rasak-
virvelia, fuli (icinis).
- gasagebia, magram an daxasiaTe-
ba Zveli samsaxuridan da an cnoba
janmrTelobis Sesaxeb ar mWirde-
ba??
- rasakvirvelia, ara.
- ratom, aralegaluria es sam-
saxurebi TurqeTSi?
- rasakvirvelia, es araoficia-
luri samsaxurebia. amitom aranairi
sabuTi, gada pasportisa ar gWirde-
baT.
davemSvidobe. Anu, pasportis da
200 dolaris garda araferia saWi-
ro. axla is damrCeba mosafiqrebe-
li, vis vesesxo es 200 dolari,
arc is mecodineba, TurqeTSi rom
gamiWirdes, vin damexmareba. arale-
galurad momuSave qarTveli mosam-
saxurisTvis TurqeTis policia
Tavs ar Seiwuxebs. qarTvelebis de-
portacia prostituciis da qurdo-
bis braldebiT imdenad xSiria, er-
TiT mets Tu gamoabunZuleben, arc
magaze idardeben, iafi muSxeli xom
miedineba da miedineba.
rac Seexeba prostitucias,
codva gamxelili sjobs, da qarT-
velebi ise arc magaze amboben uars
TurqeTSi. saqarTveloSi qmrebs
fuli xom unda gadmouricxon, rom
mere qmarma am fuliT “birJaze”
Zmakacebs ludi da sigareti uyidos
da sayvarels sunamo. Tumca, bolo
dros saqarTveloSi imdenad bevri
Turqi cxovrobs, qarTvelebs ioli
gziT fulis gasakeTeblad TurqeT-
Si siaruli aRar gviwevs. saqarTve-
loSi, Turqi mamakacebi jer inter-
netiT gvitevdnen: veZeb samegobrod
qarTvel qals, romelsac
uzrunvelvyof da davexmare-
bi materialurad. - msgavs
gancxadebebs internetSi
mravlad SexvdebiT. erT-erT
maTgans gamovexmaure:
-ggamarjoba. megobrobaSi
ras gulisxmob?
- seqss. me didi xania sa-
qarTveloSi vcxovrob da Za-
lian momwons qarTveli qa-
lebi.
- bevr qals xvdebi?
- adre vxvdebodi, axla
ara. minda erTi myavdes. er-
Ti kargi gogo gavicno da
imasTan viyo. davexmarebi yve-
lanairad. (uswavlia, qarTuli
“padxodi”)
Turqebi arc barebSi an res-
tornebSi sxedan gulxeldakrefil-
ni. ramdenime dRis win “TaRlaura-
Si” samma qarTvelma 5 Turqi scema.
mizezi: Turqebi or qarTvel gogos
gadaekidnen, RamiT maTTan erTad
wasvlas sTavazobdnen da ar eSve-
bodnen. rogorc momiyvnen, qarTvel-
ma biWebma es SeniSneso, gareT ga-
moyvanes es Seni Turqebi da ise
scemeso, rom qalebisken gaxedva mi-
nimum 2 kvira aRarc moundebodaT
(da aRarc SeeZlebodaTo).
jer kidev SegvrCenia, etyoba,
jigari da mciredi Tavmoyvareoba.
Tamuna keSelava
P.S. masalaze muSaoba ukve das-
rulebuli mqonda, roca erT-eerT
forumze TurqeTSi momuSave qarT-
velebze diskusias wavawydi. erTni
ambobdnen – ra vqnaT gviWirs da
gvasaqmebeno, meoreni – Turqebis
samaTxovro ra gvWirs, mirCevnia aq
viSimSiloo da mesameni – erTi yve-
lasi magaTio. erT mosaubres lin-
ki daedo forumze: -AAaha, naxeT da
datkbiTo. naxeT, Cabnelebul sar-
dafSi rogor sxedan aTamde Turqi
da uyureben narkotikiT gabruebu-
li qarTveli qalisa da jiSiani
Turquli ZaRlis seqsso. Turqebi
rogor dascinian qals da Tan ra
siamovnebiT amcirebeno. – ver gavbe-
de videos naxva!
aris Tu ara legaluri TurqeTSi dasaqmeba, rogori ofisebi aqvT Turqul firmebs da ra
safrTxeebs vawydebiT ucxo qveynis teritoriaze
koalicia “qarTuli ocne-
bis” warmomadgenlis, Tina xi-
daSelis gancxadebiT, “nacio-
naluri moZraobis” Semomwir-
velebis qonebis dayadaRebis
Sesaxeb, saxelmwifo auditis
samsaxuris mier gavrcelebu-
li cnoba, sazogadoebisTvis
Tvalis axvevas emsaxureba.
rogorc “medianiusTan”
saubrisas xidaSelma aRniSna,
amaze mianiSnebs is faqti, rom
aRniSnuli uwyebis samsaxuris
mier gavrcelebul gancxadebaSi arcerTi Semomwirve-
lis gvari da saxeli araa dakonkretebuli, maSin ro-
ca “qarTuli ocnebis” Semomwirvelebze auditis samsa-
xuri mudmivad detalur informacias aqveynebda.
“maSin roca koalicis Semomwirvelebis lamis mo-
biluri telefonis nomersac ki aqveyneben, ratom ar
aris dakonkretebuli am xuTi piris vinaoba?! sazoga-
doebam xom unda gaigos, vin arian es pirebi. mxolod
es erTi garemobac ki bevr rameze metyvelebs”,_aRniS-
na Tina xidaSelma
SegaxsenebT, rom ramdenime dRis win, arasamTavro-
bo organizacia “saerTaSoriso gamWirvaloba _ saqar-
Tvelom” saxelmwifo auditis samsaxuri politikuri
subieqtebis mimarT SerCeviT samarTalSi daadanaSaula
da ganacxada, rom kontrolis palatam TebervalSi “
nacionaluri moZraobis” xuTi Semomwirveli mxolod
mas Semdeg scno samarTaldamrRvevad, roca maT aRniS-
nul Semomwirvelebze informacia gamoiTxoves.
amasTan, arasamTavrobo organizaciis TqmiT, saxe-
lisuflebo partiis Semomwirvelebi auditis samsa-
xurma mxolod samarTaldamrRvevad scno da ar daaja-
rima, roca amave periodSi, analogiur saqmeebze “qar-
Tuli ocnebis” warmomadgenlebs soliduri jarimebi
daakisra.
“saerTaSoriso gamWvirvalobis” mier gakeTebuli
aRniSnuli gancxadebidan ramdenime dReSi saxelmwifo
auditis samsaxurma informacia gaavrcela imis Sesaxeb,
rom “nacionaluri moZraobis” xuTi Semomwirvelis
qonebas yadaRa daedo, Tumca maT bolomde ar gaiTva-
liswines gamWvirvalobis rekomendaciebi da gancxade-
baSi saxelisuflebo partiis Semomwirvelebis Sesaxeb
monacemebi ar gamoaqveynes.
`medianiusi~
TTiinnaa xxiiddaaSSeellii:: aauuddiittiiss ssaammssaaxxuurriiss mmiieerr ggaavvrrcceelleebbuulliiccnnoobbaa ssaazzooggaaddooeebbiissTTvviiss TTvvaalliiss aaxxvveevvaaaa
26 saerTo gazeTi #37 (221), 29.VIII-4.IX, 2012 w.
27saerTo gazeTi#37 (221), 29.VIII-4.IX, 2012 w.
`saerTo gazeTis~ mkiTxvelTa SekiT-
xvebs pasuxobs gazeTis iuridiuli kon-
sultanti, advokati
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* * *
_ Cemi Svili aris patimari. mas See-
farda giraos gadaxda, Tanxis gadaxdam-
de is patimrobaSi rCeba. Tanxas ver vix-
diT. ra moxdeba?
_ samwuxarod, damaimedebels vera-
fers mogaxsenebT. am etapze Tqveni Svi-
li giraos gadaxdamde sapatimro uzrun-
velyofas eqvemdebareba. Tu giraos ver
gadaixdiT, mas Seecvleba aRkveTis Ro-
nisZieba giraos Sefardeba aRkveTis Ro-
nisZieba _ patimrobiT.
* * *
_ ra iTvleba danaSaulis Se-
utyobineblad da rogoria sanqcia?
_ muxli 376, danaSaulis Se-
utyobinebloba
danaSaulis Seutyobinebloba
imis mier, vinc namdvilad icis, rom
mzaddeba an Cadenilia mZime anda gan-
sakuTrebiT mZime danaSauli _ isje-
ba jarimiT an Tavisuflebis aRkve-
TiT vadiT oridan oTx wlamde.
* * *
_ gamoZiebam ar mcno dazarale-
bulad sisxlis samarTlis saqmeSi,
magram vTvli, rom var dazaralebu-
li. SemiZlia Tu ara, es sakiTxi davaye-
no sasamarTloSi?
_ ara.
sisxlis samarTlis saproceso kodeq-
sis me-5 nawilis mixedviT, piris dazara-
lebulad an mis uflebamonacvled cno-
bis Sesaxeb prokurors gamoaqvs dadgeni-
leba.
amave muxlis me-6 nawilis mixedviT,
Tu piris dazaralebulad cnobis Sesaxeb
dadgenilbis gamotanis Semdeg gairkveva,
rom amis safuZveli ar arsebobs, proku-
rori iRebs gadawyvetilebas, gaauqmos es
dadgenileba.
aRniSnulidan gamomdinare, piris da-
zaralebulad cnoba-arcnobis sakiTxi
prokuroris prerogativaa.
* * *
_ rogor moxdeba yru-mmunjis dakiTx-
va?
_ yru-munjis dakiTxva tardeba Sesa-
bamisi codnis mqone Tarjimnis monawile-
obiT. Tu dasakiTxi piri yrua, misTvis
SekiTxvebis dasma SeiZleba werilobiT,
xolo Tu is munjia, mas SeuZlia. Se-
kiTxvebze pasuxi werilobiT gasces. (ss
saproceso kodeqsi s117-e muxli).
* * *
_ varT ori Zma da ori da. debi
gaTxovilebi arian. mamaCvenma datova an-
derZi. misi qonebis oTx Tanabar nawilad
gayofis Sesaxeb. debi uars amboben qone-
bis miRebaze. rogor moxdeba maTi kuTv-
nili wilebis ganawileba?
_ samoqalaqo kodeqsis 1140-e muxlis
mixedviT Tu memkvidrem uari Tqva samk-
vidros miRebaze, magram ar ganucxadebia,
Tu vis sasargeblod ambobs uars, maSin
misi wili Seemateba memkvidreebad mowve-
ul kanoniT memkvidreTa wils, xolo Tu
mTeli samkvidro anderZiT iyo ganawile-
buli, maSin anderZiT memkvidreTa wils
da igi ganawildeba maT Soris maTi wi-
lis proporciulad. Tu anderZiT sxva
ram ar aris gaTvaliswinebuli.
aRniSnulidan gamomdinare, Tu Tqveni
debi daakonkreteben, romeli Zmis sasar-
geblod amboben Tavis wilze uars, am
wils miiRebs es Zma. xolo Tu Tqveni de-
bi ar ganacxadeben. vis sasargeblod am-
boben samkvidros miRebaze uars, maSin
Tqven _ orive Zma Tanabrad gaiyofT de-
bis wils.
* * *
_ Cemi rZali Cems vaJTan registrire-
bul qorwinebaSi ar imyofeboda. SeeZinaT
qaliSvili. rZalma bavSvi dagvitova Cven
da gaemgzavra italiaSi. is bavSvs ar ex-
mareba. samoqalaqo kanonmdeblobis mixed-
viT ekisreba Tu ara qals aseT SemTxve-
vaSi alimentis gadaxda?
_ diax. ekisreba.
Svilebis winaSe rogorc dedas. ise
mamas Tanabari ufleba-movaleobebi gaaC-
niaT. aRniSnulidan gamomdinare, Tqven
vaJs SeuZlia Seitanos sarCeli sasamar-
TloSi da bavSvis dedisgan moiTxovos
alimentis gadaxda.
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marebiT movaxerxeT garkveuli Tanxis mog-
roveba da bavSvis umokles vadaSi germani-
aSi gagzavna. amJamad lukas utardeba in-
tensiuri qimioTerapiis kursi germaniaSi,
qalaq fraiburgis sauniversiteto bavSvTa
klinikaSi.
samwuxarod, rogorc mimdinare anali-
zebidan gamoCnda, intensiuri qimioTerapiis
standartulma kursma ver gamoiRo saTana-
do Sedegi. amJamad gamoikveTa aucileblo-
ba, rom bavSvs Cautardes Zvlis tvinis Re-
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evro. amxela odenobis Tanxis Segroveba
samwuxarod aRemateba Cvens yvela saSuale-
bas da amitomac gadavwyviteT, mogvemarTa
TqvenTvis daxmarebisTvis.
gTxovT, gulTan axlos miitanoT pata-
ra Llukas mdgomareoba, gamoiCinoT gulis-
xmiereba da SesaZleblobis farglebSi, ne-
bismieri odenobis (mcireodeni) Senatane-
biT, dagvexmaroT operaciisTvis saWiro
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winaswar gixdiT did madlobas Tqveni
Tanadgomisa da daxmarebisTvis.
lukas ojaxi
patara lukas Tqveni Tanadgoma gadaarCens
gvesaubrebian astro-pparafsiqologi, qalbatoni ana lenormani da
naTelmxilveli maguli vaSakiZe
_ qalbatono ana, sakmaod rTuli da problematuri periodia politi-
kuri viTarebidan da bunebrivi kataklizmebidan gamomdinare. Tqveni prog-
noziT, rogori Semodgoma elodeba saqarTvelos?
ana lenormani: Semodgoma sakmaod rTuli
da daZabuli iqneba. Aaxla zafxulia, dasvenebis
periodi, amitom daviwyeb imiT, rom mze aris Za-
lian aqtiuri da saSiSi. bevr daavadebas gamo-
iwvevs wlevandeli aqtiuri mze. Kkidev bevri ka-
taklizmia mosalodneli, ara marto CvenTan,
aramed mTeli msoflios masStabiT, bunebrivi
katastrofebi iqneba iseT adgilebSic ki, sadac
aravin elodeba. vis sad waeweva anomaluri si-
tuacia, aravin icis.
seqtemberi da oqtomberi mZime periodi iqne-
ba. Ggarda imisa, rom arCevnebia, daemateba isic,
rom xalxi gamova quCaSi. iqneba SuRli, ojaxeb-
Sic ki mosalodnelia ganxeTqileba. politikur
speqtrSi didi cvlilebebi iqneba, daiwyeba gamosvlebi, vxedav sisxlisRv-
ris saSiSroebas. dapirispirebas vxedav ubralo moqalaqeebSic.
_ es arCevnebamde iqneba Tu mis mere?
_ arCevnebamdec da Semdgomac. Zalian rTuli iqneba am wlis meore na-
xevari. Yyvela Tavisi skamisTvis ibrZvis da es bevr cuds mogvitans. Tum-
ca cxovreba aseTia, kibesaviTaa, roca erTi Cadis, meore adis...
_ ivaniSvilsa da saakaSvils gulisxmobT?
_ modiT, amjerad nu damakonkretebinebT, jobs daskvnebi Tavad gamoi-
tanoT. winaswarmetyvelTa sityvebs dafiqreba da axsna esaWiroeba...
mxolod imas getyviT, saarCevno periodSi daZabuloba gaizrdeba da saq-
me SeiZleba sisxlisRvramde mivides...
maguli vaSakiZe: me adrec araerTxel viwi-
naswarmetyvele areulobebis Sesaxeb. albaT, gax-
sovT Tqvens gazeTSi daibeWda interviu, romel-
Sic vsaubrobdi sisxlisRvris Sesaxeb parlamen-
tis mimdebare teritoriaze. marTlac amas mohyva
gasuli wlis 26 maisis ambebi, romelic msxverp-
liT dasrulda.
axlac bevriT verafriT gagaxarebT, radgan Za-
lian ar momwons axlo momavlis suraTebi, rac
ukve araerTxel meCvena. axla jer kidev zafxu-
lia, mkvdari sezoni. varaudobdnen, rom aqtiuri
politikuri cxovreba wels adre daiwyeboda, mag-
ram ase ar moxda. aqtiuri procesebi seqtembri-
dan iwyeba. erTbaSad daiwyebs daZabuloba zrdas.
gansakuTrebiT ar momwons samegrelos regioni, kerZod, zugdidi. iq vxedav
momavali daZabulobis dasawyiss. mova seqtembris Sua ricxvebi da isev vxe-
dav sisxlisRvras, dapirispirebas, provokaciebs.
_ es xom ar imoqmedebs arCevnebis TariRze?
_ meCvena amisi albaTobac. SeiZleba ise daiZabos situacia, rom arCev-
nebis dRezec imoqmedos. magram erTs getyviT: gamarjveba mainc imisia, vinc
cdilobs movides. magram aris kidev erTi momenti: damarcxebis SemTxveva-
Si vxedav uares sisxlisRvras da dapirispirebas, vidre arCevnebis dRemde.
_ ra igulisxmeba, represiebi Tu samoqalaqo dapirispireba?
_ orive. wmenda, ase vTqvaT da samoqalaqo siZulvili. Tavs iCens samo-
qalaqo dajaxebis mcdeloba. es procesebi cota droSi gaiweleba, magram
ukeTesoba iqneba. amis imedi unda viqonioT.
Tamuna qadagiZe
ras winaswarmetyveleben naTelmxilvelebi
winasaarCevno periodisa da arCevnebis Sesaxeb
24 saerTo gazeTi #37 (221), 29.VIII-4.IX, 2012 w.28C M Y K
amave nomris skanvordis pasuxebi:skanvordi
11..ddoossttooeevvsskkii.. 22.. kkoommbbaallii.. 33.. kkoonnttiinneenn-
ttii.. 44.. mmeettllaaxxii.. 55.. aannaappuurrnnaa.. 66.. ppaannaa.. 77.. kkooss-
mmooddrroommii,,.. 88.. vvaadduuccii.. 99.. ddiisskkrriimmiinnaacciiaa.. 1100..
ccaaiittnnoottii.. 1111.. ttuubbeerroozzaa.. 1122.. vviikkoonnttii.. 1133.. bbii-
kkiinnii.. 1144.. ssttookkeerrii.. 1155.. ffeessvveebbii.. 1166.. kkaattoo.. 1177..
nnoottii.. 1188.. ggoorriioo.. 1199.. SSaallkkee.. 2200.. CCiiTTiillii.. 2211..
SSeeTTee.. 2222.. rruurrkkii.. 2233.. SSaammoottii.. 2244.. nnaacciiaa.. 2255..
ttrriipplleettii.. 2266.. ssaarrkkooffaaggii.. 2277.. mmeellaannii.. 2288..
JJiivviillii.. 2299.. cceerrcceettii.. 3300.. rroosstteevvaann.. 3311.. iiddee-
bbii.. 3322.. tteerrffii.. 3333.. aallaanniiaa.. 3344.. rraaffssooddiiaa.. 3355..
rruuqqnnaaddiinnii.. 3366.. llaaddaa.. 3377.. ddiioorraammaa.. 3388.. uuaaiittii..
3399.. lloobbiioo.. 4400.. oossttaattii.. 4411.. jjeerraallddii.. 4422..
aabboorrttmmaaxxeerrii.. 4433.. ppaassttiillaa.. 4444.. ttaarrbbii.. 4455..
lleessii.. 4466.. ddiinnii.. 4477.. bboommbboorraa.. 4488.. ddoonn.. 4499..
bboonnii.. 5500.. bbiilliiaaSSii.. 5511.. lloommbbaarrddiiaa.. 5522.. vvaallee-
rriiaannaa.. 5533.. aannddrreeii.. 5544.. ttiittuullii.. 5555.. mmoollooxxii..
5566.. rreeii.. 5577.. kkiinnSSaassaa.. 5588.. kkaabbiirriiaa.. 5599.. aarriiss-
ttootteellee.. 6600.. ssuullgguunnii.. 6611.. ssooiioo.. 6622.. pprree-
rriiaa.. 6633.. ppiizzaa.. 6644.. aazziizzaa.. 6655.. ttaarriiggii.. 6666.. ggaann-
ZZeellii.. 6677.. mmaarruullaa..
astrologiuri
prognozi
verZi _ am kviraSi bevri
saintereso da mniSvnelo-
vani cvlilebebi geliT. ar
aris gamoricxuli garkveuli wi-
nsvla gqondeT samsaxurSi.
kuro _ kviris dasawyi-
sSi mogiwevT saqmiani wina-
dadebebis ganxilva, sadac
Tqven garda, adamianTa garkveuli
jgufic miiRebs monawileobas.
tyupebi _ yuradRebis
centrSi moeqceviT da
Tqven garSemo mimdinare
procesebSic aqtiurad mogiwevT
CarTva.
kirCxibi _ saintereso
kvira geliT. Tu SeZlebT
da sakuTar Canafiqrebs ko-
nkretul miznamde daiyvanT da ama-
sTan qmediT nabijebsac gadadgamT,
maSin moaxerxebT seriozuli da
pozitiuri cvlilebebis ganxo-
rcielebas.
lomi _ am penriodSi Se-
saZlebelia mgzavroba mogi-
wioT. amasTan, saintereso
winadadebebis ganxilvac mogiwevT.
qalwuli _ SesaZloa
SeityoT axali informacia,
romelsac didi xania elo-
debiT. ar aris gamoricxuli es
dakavSirebuli iyos samsaxurTan.
saswori _ mimdinare
kviraSi mosalodnelia, ga-
rkveuli gadafasebebis ga-
keTeba da axali saqmeebis dagegma-
reba mogixdeT.
morieli _ iyaviT aqti-
uri da ukve arCeul mizans
mizanmimarTulad mihyeviT,
Tumca, gamoiCineT maqsimaluri si-
frTxile.
mSvildosani _ mosa-
lodnelia, gagiuaresdeT
emociuri mdgomareoba da
nervuli sistemac dageZaboT. amis
mizezi isev da isev Tavad iqnebiT.
Txis rrqa _ es kvira
Cveulebriv tempSi warima-
rTeba da saqmiani aqtivoba
saSualoze maRali iqneba, rac,
sxvaTa Soris, gazrdis Tqvens pr-
oduqtiulobas.
merwyuli _ ar aris
gamoricxuli, Zlieri emo-
ciuri datvirTvebi gqond-
eT, Tumca es ufro axlobelTa
problemebis gamo warmoiSveba. nu-
ravis nurafers dahpirdebiT.
Tevzebi _ mosalodne-
lia Tqveni saqmianobis an
biznesis reformireba mo-
giwioT da amaSi Tqveni axlo-
blebi da kompanionebic iqnebian
CarTuli. iqneba imis albaTobac,
rom mogiwioT saxelmwifo orga-
nizaciebTan da Tanamdebobis pire-
bTan urTierToba.
`̀ffoorrbbssmmaa~~ wwlliiss yyvveellaazzee ggaavvlleenniiaanniiqqaallbbaattoonnii ddaaaassaaxxeellaa
`forbsis~ mi-
xedviT, wlis
gavleniani qal-
batonebis siis
saTaveSi amjera-
dac germaniis
kancleri angela
merkeli dgas.
es misi ukve
meeqvse `gamarj-
vebaa~, mxolod
erTxel, 2010
wels mas miSel
obamam gauswro. wleuls ki amerikis pirveli ledi meSvide
adgilzea.
jerjerobiT myar meore adgils aSS-is saxelmwifo mdi-
vani hilari klintonis ikavebs.
mesame adgilze braziliis prezidenti dilma rusefia.
SarSan reitingSi is 94-e adgilze iyo.
meoTxe adgili `maikrosoftis~ patronis bil geitsis
meuRles melindas
ukavia. igi aqtiurad
aris CarTuli qvel-
moqmedebaSi. mexuTe
adgilis mflobeli
`niu-iork taimsis~
mTavari redaqtori
jil abramsonia.
Semdeg modis biz-
nes-qalbatonebi, ro-
melTa Soris msxvi-
li kompaniebis top-
menejerebic arian.
magaliTad, opra uin-
fri me-11 poziciazea,
xolo 38-ze momRe-
rali jenifer lopesi. mis epataJur kolegas ledi gagas me-
14 adgili uWiravs. Tanac 26 wlis ledi gaga yvelaze axal-
gazrda warmomadgenelia `forbsis~ cnobil qalbatonebs So-
ris. yvelaze xandazmuli am CamonaTvalSi 86 wlis dedofa-
li elisabed meorea, is 26-e adgilzea.
rusuli warmoSobis arc erTi qalbatoni wleuls am si-
aSi ar moxvedrila. Tavis droze siaSi iulia timoSenko
iyo. axla is `sxva~ siaSia.
ddiiddxxaannss ZZiillii ssaaffrrTTxxiiss SSeemmccvveelliiaazedmeti wonisgan
rom Tavi daicvaT,
dReSi 9 saaTze meti
ar unda iZinoT, _
gvirCeven vaSingtone-
li mecnierebi.
rogorc cxadi
gaxda, zedmeti Zili
zedmet wonas warmo-
Sobs.
Caatares cda, rom-
lis mixedviT, cdispirTa nawils 7 saaTi eZina, nawils _ 9
saaTi da meti. aRmoCnda, rom 9 saaTze met xans Zili or-
ganizmSi Warb wonas warmoqmnis.
mmeeccnniieerreebbii SSeeaaSSffooTTaa kkaatteebbiiss ssaaiidduummlloo ccxxoovvrreebbaamm
jorjiis universitetis mec-
nierebma saocari ram aRmoaCines.
60 kataze cda Caatares. mec-
nierebi akvirdebodnen cxove-
lebs videokameriT da swavlob-
dnen maTi cxovrebis detalebs.
aRmoCnda, rom katebis 30 pro-
centi nadirobda, 49 procenti
_ erToboda, 21 procents ki na-
nadirevi saxlSi mihqonda.
Sinauri katebis ZiriTadi
nanadirevi wylis xvlikebi, gvelebi da bayayebi aRmoCnda, Sem-
degi 25 procenti mRrRnelebs etanebodnen, 20 procenti pep-
lebs da matlebs, Citebs _ 12 procenti. ekologebi miiCneven,
rom katebi arian zogierTi jiSis frinvelis gaqrobis mizezi.
am Teorias frinvelTa dacvis amerikuli komitetis preziden-
ti jorj fenviki avrcelebs.
kvlevam cxadhyo, rom ojaxis katebis 45 procenti samanqa-
no gzas gadaWris xolme, 20 procenti yovelgvar sisaZagles
svams da Wams. amasTanave, katebis nawili `or ojaxSi~ cxov-
robs da patronis erTguli sulac araa.
moamzada ana vadaWkoriam
eris naTeli momavali eklesia-monastrebis mSe-
neblobaSia, miiReT monawileoba wmida andria pir-
velwodebulis monastris mSeneblobaSi. ufali Se-
gewevaT. bednieri adamiani - morwmune adamiania.
rom gwamdes - unda daijero, rom gjerodes - unda
gindodes, madli rom moipovo - unda gsurdes. qarT-
velno, erTad RvTisaken!
RRmmeerrTTmmaa ddaaggllooccooTT ddaa ggaaggaaZZlliieerrooTT!!
meuRle medea mamulaSvili, Svilebi: ana, xaTuna, naTia, xatia ken-
WaZeebi, da-Zma murad da mzia kenWaZeebi, siZeebi: mixeil fuxaSvili,
mixeil wereTeli, daviT Sermadini, colisda leila mamulaSvili,
disSvilebi, ZmisSvilebi da naTesavebi ojaxebiT iuwyebian, rom gar-
daicvala saqarTvelos televiziis Rvawlmosili muSaki, saqarTve-
los sazogadoebrivi mauwyeblis ufrosi inJineri
aavvTTaannddiill kkeennWWaaZZeeppaannaaSSvviiddii: 28-29 agvistos 5 saaTidan.
mmiissaammaarrTTii: d/diRomi, 3 m/r-ni, 29 korp. 2 sadarbazo, 8 sarTuli.
ggaammoossvveenneebbaa: 30 agvistos, d/diRmis wm. nikolozis taZridan 3 saaTze.
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